Team News Discussion Thread Vol. VII [R]

Favre was fired before they were even relegated and that was a huge mistake. He was fired in September. Hard to blame him for all the misery that ensued. The squad was bled out after he took them almost into the CL. Their main striker went back to Liverpool. Höness was ousted and he basically got no reinforcements to compete in Europe and the BL. It really snowballed on them.

Needs to be seen how BMG does in the CL or Europa League. They seem to be making some good decisions in the transfer market with the recent signings they have had. Would have helped them tremendously if they had gotten Santana but he is staying in Dortmund.

And I don't see anyone rating Klopp a bad coach despite the teams performances in the CL or the EL the last two years.

They also sold Simunic and Pantelic in addition to losing Voronin. Putting the relegation on him when he got fired in September FFS is pretty tough. He just proved that he can take a club that is struggling like BMG and save them from that. BMG was in last place with only 16 points after 22 matches. They gained 20 points from their last 12 games with a team that pretty much everyone had written off. They looked dreadful until he took over.

I agree with you, selling the defender of the season and Pantelic and firing him in September was a dumbass move by Hoeness. But I stand by what I said, we still need to wait and see because odds are that he is going to face almost exactly the same situation next season with Reus and Dante gone. And no-one can rate Klopp a bad coach because, well, he won the freaking double and the league title last season

This I can't agree. It's a great achievement, but not miraculous. Gladbach was a club primed for a top 4 finish. They have one of the largest fanbases in Germany and the talent. They aren't Hannover and they aren't Mainz.

Fanbase has zero effect on performance. And Gladbach was a blink away from BL II. How does that make you prime for top 4 finish???

Well, the Bleacher Report did not have them finishing higher than 8. They were somewhere between 8-14.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...on-predictions-for-the-upcoming-season/page/8

Another site had them battling relegation.

Hönigstein had them finishing 16th. I guess you should predict next year's BL finishes since these guys apparently suck at it j/k

Just look at Gladbach's roster this season and tell me whether Stuttgart, Schalke, Leverkusen, or Hanover have sides with significantly better talent. And the fact that the Bundesliga is so schizophrenic shouldn't make this any more surprising. Who's to say that Hanover or even Nurnberg don't achieve a top 4 finish next season? You want to make the bet?

Whatever, I seem to be the only one that thinks that Gladbach have always had the talent to be successful in the BL even since the year they got promoted, especially considering the volatile nature of the league. You can't tell me that Frontzeck is a good coach.

I only prefer Slomka and Tuchel, nothing against Favre......

You can only say that in hindsight after they performed and played well which has a lot to do with the coach

Before the season there weren't many who thought they would be even in the top half of the table.

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Muahaha Gomez you pussy...

Not to mention they have a few quality youth players. Keep an eye out for Hermann, he seems to be the real deal.

Is Jantschke really that solid? I haven't been following BM as I'd like, but he seems to get a great rep on the forums.

Don't know about everyone else, but I am all for Heynckes to remain a coach at Bayern for next season. He's done a great job, and you can't blame him for not winning. The final was executed perfectly, but he isn't going to put the ball into the back of the net for the players.

^^no arguement here, I'm thinking this is in preparation for the 13-14 season

Where did u find rumors about KP Boateng? Sources? No one-

^^Hypotheticals

ok but why a similar player? we dont need him, of course he's a great player but we are covered in that position....

I find it exciting again in the Bundesliga with traditionally old-school clubs back in the mix.... Monchengladbach in particular, and now the promotion of Fortuna Dusseldorf.

Could we be headed towards a retro 70's feel in the B1????

All we need is Muenchen 1860 to come back into the mix along with Duisburg and Karlsruhe...

And Schalke finishing 2nd all the time

I prefer Slomka to Favre only in that Slomka's teams positionally dominate the pitch whereas Favre plays counter attacking football.

I think a quick passing, high pressure, aggressive, playing high up the pitch approach like Slomka's would translate better than the sit back and spring quickly out of defense theory of Favre.