Supporters' Shield Race 2012(-2013)

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  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    even crazier: nobody in the west has locked up a playoff spot.
    this has to be the latest that nobody has had a spot sealed in a conference

    There is a (very unlikely) scenario where Portland goes from tied for the SS with 2 games left to 6th place in the west. In 2 games. This 2013 season has been entertaining, thats for sure
     
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  2. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New York is leading the league with 56pts

    Code:
    1.Kansas City       2
    2.Portland          1
    3.Real Salt Lake    1
    4.Seattle           Eliminated (Week #34)
    5.Los Angeles       Eliminated (Week #34)
    6.Montreal          Eliminated (Week #34)
    7.Colorado          Eliminated (Week #34)
    8.Houston           Eliminated (Week #34)
    9.San Jose          Eliminated (Week #34)
    10.Philadelphia     Eliminated (Week #33)
    11.Vancouver        Eliminated (Week #32)
    12.New England      Eliminated (Week #32)
    13.CHICAGO          Eliminated (Week #32)
    14.FC Dallas        Eliminated (Week #31)
    15.Columbus         Eliminated (Week #30)
    16.CD Chivas        Eliminated (Week #27)
    17.Toronto          Eliminated (Week #27)
    18.DC United        Eliminated (Week #26)
     
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  3. jade fox

    jade fox New Member

    Oct 24, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    It is amazing how this is coming down to the last week. Best....MLS....season....ever!
     
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  4. DC06

    DC06 Member+

    Oct 9, 2006
    Within amile of home
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The most nerve wracking match has to be New York v. Chicago where it could be Salt Lake, Kansas City or Portland watching and being huge Fire fans.
     
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  5. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    ...unless you're a DC, TFC, or Chivas USA fan.
     
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  6. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    If past records are anything to go by, NYRB / SKC will likely finish as SS Winners / Runners-up in 2013. ;):cool::thumbsup:

     
  7. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    On the other hand, assuming the most recent corresponding (home/road) scores between the teams do repeat themselves in the upcoming games, the following will be the outcome for the Final Week of Regular Season 2013:

    (in the absence of the most recent corresponding games this season, the most recent scores regardless of home/road would apply)

     
  8. jade fox

    jade fox New Member

    Oct 24, 2013
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    RSL back on top after last night's win!

    Now, we could end up with a three way tie if Red Bull doesn't win, if Sporting KC ties, and if Portland doesn't win.

    How would they determine the winner at that point?
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Most Wins
    2. Goals For
    3. Goal Differential (GD)
    4. Fewest Disciplinary Points
    5. Road Goals
    6. Road Goal Differential
    7. Home Goals
    8. Home Goal Differential
    9. Coin Toss (2 teams) or Drawing of Lots (3 or more)

    It will come down to GF, (Unless the Kansas City game is a 12-12 tie), Real Salt Lake would win the SS.
     
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  10. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #111 henryo, Oct 26, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2013
    Below are the Top-4 Teams still with a shot at the SS, heading into the Final Weekend. Have fun with all the maths... :)

    ## Team -------- P W D L GF - GA Pts GD
    1. Real Salt Lake 34 16 8 10 57 - 41 56 (+16)
    2. New York Red Bulls 33 16 8 9 53 - 39 56 (+14)
    3. Sporting Kansas City 33 16 7 10 45 - 29 55 (+16)
    4. Portland Timbers 33 13 15 5 49 - 33 54 (+16)

     
  11. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Official Site:
    http://m.mlssoccer.com/news/article...narios-heading-final-week-2013-regular-season

     
  12. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Read from somewhere that the New SS Trophy is touring in Montreal this week, hence may not be in time to present it to the eventual winning team, which can be from any of the 4 time zones: Eatern NY, Central KC, Moutain RSL or even Pacific Portland!!

    There could be some workarounds though:

    1. Ship the OLD SS trophy to NY?

    2. Use some placeholders trophies first... or,

    3. Just DIY some mock paper cut-out trophies!!

    Anything goes, :p
     
  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's going to be either Kansas City (58pts) or New York (56pts), New York needs to beat Chicago or Kansas City wins the shield.
     
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  14. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Just want to point out that tiebreakers 7 and 8 are completely meaningless. If you are tied on goals for, goal differential, road goals, and road goal differential, then you are, by evil maths, tied on home goals and home differential as well.
     
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  15. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Well, maybe "completely meaningless" isn't the right phrase there. Let's use "redundant."
     
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  16. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone here presumably knows for sure, but my understanding is that the actual Supporters' Shield--i.e., the trophy itself--is always presented at the annual MLS Supporters' Summit, which historically has taken place in conjunction with the MLS Cup final. So no one will actually receive it this weekend.
     
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  17. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #118 henryo, Oct 26, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2013
    Official Site:
    http://supportersshield.org/the-tour/

    The New SS last toured N.E. last week and there's no updates no its whereabouts now.

    Now that the Cup Final Venue is not yet set, is the Summit still going on by then?

    Why not just ship it to the RBA this week? :)
     
  18. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    And, despite this being the tighest SS Race ever, there will be no ties at the top of the SS Standings, unlike in 2000, 01 and 04.
     
  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right, but if the tiebreakers remain the same I would expect any Supporters' Shield ties in the next 100 years to be broken by Fewest Disciplinary Points if not sooner.
     
  20. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New York Redbulls are 2013 SS winner (59pts)

    Code:
    1.Kansas City       Eliminated (Week #35)
    2.Portland          Eliminated (Week #35)
    3.Real Salt Lake    Eliminated (Week #35)
    4.Seattle           Eliminated (Week #34)
    5.Los Angeles       Eliminated (Week #34)
    6.Montreal          Eliminated (Week #34)
    7.Colorado          Eliminated (Week #34)
    8.Houston           Eliminated (Week #34)
    9.San Jose          Eliminated (Week #34)
    10.Philadelphia     Eliminated (Week #33)
    11.Vancouver        Eliminated (Week #32)
    12.New England      Eliminated (Week #32)
    13.CHICAGO          Eliminated (Week #32)
    14.FC Dallas        Eliminated (Week #31)
    15.Columbus         Eliminated (Week #30)
    16.CD Chivas        Eliminated (Week #27)
    17.Toronto          Eliminated (Week #27)
    18.DC United        Eliminated (Week #26)
     
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  21. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Right. I just think it's silly to to list tie-breakers that will never be used in the next infinity years.
     
  22. T.M. Anthony

    T.M. Anthony Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Hudson Valley
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *ahem*

    CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!
     
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  23. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congrats. The Red Bulls put on a clinic in that second half.
     
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  24. USFootiefan1980

    LAFC
    United States
    Aug 19, 2005
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, what an amazing game. Impressive.
     

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