Superleague 2011/12

Discussion in 'Austria & Switzerland' started by magicgam1, Jun 5, 2011.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    March 31
    FT Grasshoppers 0 - 2 Sion
    FT Thun 2 - 3 Basel

    April 1
    FT Lausanne Sports 3 - 1 Servette
    FT Zurich 2 - 2 Young Boys Bern

    April 4
    18:30 Lausanne Sports ? - ? Basel

    Servette lets LS score for the first time in 2012 in their loss. I think that Servette does not really have a chance for the Europa League spot. YB and FCZ with a very entertaining match. Basel further distances themselves. They could play their U23 team from here to the end of the season and still win.

    1. Basel 25 +32 55
    2. Luzern 26 +10 41
    3. YB 26 +12 39
    4. Thun 26 -2 34
    5. Servette 26 -10 34
    6. Zürich 26 +1 31
    7. GC 26 -25 23
    8. Lausanne-Sport 25 -30 17
    9. Sion* 26 +12 9
    10. NE Xamax** 18 0 26
     
  2. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Servette plays Thun next, so this will be a very important match with regards to 4th place... of course, Zurich is stronger... but if Basel wins the cup, 4th position is sufficient for an Euroleague spot and with a new management lot of things could move for the better at Servette...
     
  3. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    April 4
    18:30 Lausanne Sports ? - ? Basel

    Maybe LS can continue their hot streak, not likely.
     
  4. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Basel won 2-0 at Lausanne
     
  5. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    April 7
    17:45 Lucerne ? - ? Basel
    17:45 Sion ? - ? Zurich

    April 9
    16:00 Servette ? - ? Thun
    16:00 Young Boys Bern ? - ? Lausanne Sports

    Servette-Thun is a very big one. Luzern-Basel as well. Actually all 4 matches this weekend have implications. If Basel wins, they move 19/20 points ahead of Luzern or YB. There are only 24 more points that Luzern can gain. If Basel were to win this weekend (they have a 20 match unbeaten streak) they will need only 1 more point the rest of the season.

    1. Basel 26 +34 58
    2. Luzern 26 +10 41
    3. YB 26 +12 39
    4. Thun 26 -2 34
    5. Servette 26 -10 34
    6. Zürich 26 +1 31
    7. GC 26 -25 23
    8. Lausanne-Sport 26 -32 17
    9. Sion* 26 +12 9
    10. NE Xamax** 18 0 26
     
  6. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luzern has made it clear that the lead that Basel has is too much, and they are focusing on 2nd place in the championship. They also want to win the Swiss Cup. The team took in the AC Milan - Barca match last week.
     
  7. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    April 7
    FT Lucerne 1 - 1 Basel
    FT Sion 2 - 1 Zurich

    Luzern with a 1-1 draw. Sion closes to within 5 points of LS.

    April 9
    16:00 Servette ? - ? Thun
    16:00 Young Boys Bern ? - ? Lausanne Sports
     
  8. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    even if Sion catches Lausanne before round 15, it's not over

    round 10:
    Sion: already played
    YB-Lausanne
    (count 0 points for Lausanne-so still 5 points)

    round 11:
    Lausanne-Thun
    Servette-Sion
    (difficult guess, still 5 points?)

    round 12:
    Sion-Basel
    Zurich-Lausanne
    (difficult as well, maybe 4 points)

    round 13:
    Basel-Lausanne
    Thun-Sion
    (well, overall Sion should have gotten closer by now, maybe 1 to 2 points now)

    round 14:
    Lausanne-Sion
    (let's be neutral and say a draw)

    round 15:
    Sion-GC
    Servette-Lausanne
    (now, Sion has to take the lead)

    round 16:
    Lucerne-Lausanne
    Sion: no match
    (Lausanne won't come back here)

    round 17:
    YB-Sion
    Lausanne: no match
    (difficult one for Sion)

    round 18:
    Lausanne-GC
    Sion-Lucerne
    (maybe, still a little chance for Lausanne)
     
  9. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  11. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Thun already scored - ouch
     
  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a great start for Servette.
     
  13. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ouch, that has to be a broken arm!
     
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Esteban in for Eudis
     
  15. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eudis goes up for a header and lands very wrongly on his left arm.
     
  16. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LS is winning at YB.
     
  17. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Esteban has really played well so far in this match. He has added pace and guile. Servette looks much more dangerous.
     
  18. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thun 2-0. After a very nice run and work along the right flank, a great shot from the top of the area. No chance for Gonzalez. 77'. Too bad because there is a really good crowd at the Stade de Geneve today. Servette had been pushing for the equalizer, and got caught.
     
  19. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In case you missed Shaqiri's goal here it is:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/archive/2.html

    April 9
    FT Servette 0 - 2 Thun
    FT Young Boys Bern 1 - 3 Lausanne Sports

    1. Basel 27 +34 59
    2. Luzern 27 +10 42
    3. YB 27 +10 39
    4. Thun 27 0 37
    5. Servette 27 -12 34
    6. Zürich 27 0 31
    7. GC 26 -25 23
    8. Lausanne-Sport 27 -30 20
    9. Sion* 27 +13 12
    10. NE Xamax** 18 0 26

    One has to wonder if both Sion and LS will catch GCZ.
     
  20. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    media are creating doubts about Gross' future at YB - he almost has to win vs GC

    then, GC might getting in trouble as they're only 3 points clear of Lausanne. Lausanne won twice in a row and Sion is on a winning streak. GC has one more match left than the others, but playing away at YB and Thun, then vs Lucerne and Servette at home, away at Sion and Basel, then vs Zurich and finally away at Lausanne.

    It's possible GC is losing their away matches at YB, Thun, Sion and Basel and their home matches vs Lucerne and Zurich which is not really a home match. Then, there is only the home match vs Servette and the away match vs Lausanne left. So, Lausanne could have a chance to pass Servette in the last round...

    GC is lucky that Xamax is relegated and Sion has the penalty...
    but still Lausanne vs GC in the last round could become decisive if Sion continues winning

    or if GC only wins 2 points till the end of the season, let's say a draw vs Servette and a draw vs Zurich or Thun. This would give them 25 points.

    Lausanne in this scenario would win vs GC at home in the last round and they could have another two draws. Let's say vs Thun and Sion at home or away at Servette. This would give them 25 points as well.

    Sion could win another 13 points till the end of the season including a victory vs GC and a draw or victory vs Lausanne and end up at 25 points as well.

    of course, 3 teams with 26 points could be possible as well.

    in this case, the goal average is in favor of Sion in front of either Lausanne or GC
     
  21. Lager Lout

    Lager Lout Member

    Jun 27, 2005
    Bern
    Club:
    Exeter City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don't have to wonder, I am convinced they will!

    I was predicting relegation for GC before they sold Emergara and I have seen nothing all season to change my mind. The Sion and Xamax penalties have done nothing other than paper over the cracks so that their delusional fans cannot see that the club is in a terminal decline.

    LL
     
  22. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know that FCSG would beat them, but do they have enough to defeat either Bellinzona, Aarau, Winterthur or Lugano?
     
  23. magicgam1

    magicgam1 Member

    Dec 22, 2005
    Lausanne
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    vs Aarau, Winterthur or Lugano the question would be whether GC's defense is up to the task. Bürki yes, but the defenders?
    vs Bellinzona, Hakan could make the difference

    the only GC players convincing lately are Bürki and De Ridder. Of course, there was Emeghara before he left.
    Zuber, Hajrovic, Feltscher, Mustafi, Toko, Lang have are all young and have played more or less ok... Kehl, Xhaka, Bauer are also young and only played few lately
    Bertucci was really disappointing, Smiljanic injured half of the time and not influent enough when he played, Callà and Cabanas were injured most of the time

    well. the 5 or 6 players who should be leaders have not played often and not good enough... the 15 youngsters they have are really talented, but you can't stay in Superleague with a U-21 team. That's why U-21 teams play in 1st league or 2nd league
     
  24. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do not forget Adill who is injured this spring, but is way below the U21 line. My assessment would be similar, they went cheap (young) and are paying the price. I wonder what GCZ fans would do if their team was relegated because of on the field issues, not off the field ones. Who was the last of the big clubs to be relegated for on field play?
     
  25. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    April 14
    17:45 Lausanne Sports ? - ? Thun
    17:45 Young Boys Bern ? - ? Grasshoppers

    April 15
    16:00 Servette ? - ? Sion
    16:00 Zurich ? - ? Lucerne

    Servette needs to get out of its slump, but Sion will be quite upset to see their Europa Leagues hopes dashed. Servette has done well against Sion, but they are in a very bad run at the moment. YB should handle GCZ, but they should have handled LS. Can LS keep their good run going with a victory vs Thun? That match could see them draw level with GCZ.
     

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