SuperDraft 2013: Are you optimistic?

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by ImissTHEheat, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hack seems to love Okai according to Zeitlin.

    "In our humble opinion, he’s probably one of players most ready to have an immediate impact in MLS."

    "It’s rare you get a player out of NAIA but I think some people will argue he's probably the best player in college soccer."
     
  2. MobileSoccerFan

    May 14, 2012
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Strengths are speed,quickness, ball skills, vision, passing and free kicks.
    Weaknesses are size and somewhat injury-prone. Also at times, and this might have just been because of the players around him and the level of play, he would try to do too much.

    His potential is high, but he could fall to the bane of the physicality of league play.

    He's done well and I know the club is familiar with him due to his time with Reading.
     
  3. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless they're goalkeepers, don't assume the positions guys play in college are the positions they'll play in the pros. And not always then.
     
  4. ImissTHEheat

    ImissTHEheat Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only time will tell on the Anding pick. I think most fans felt a little blind-sided by it, but hard to tell until he sees the field (and at what position). Also hard to tell what they passed up until those other players pan out. You can surely say they picked Anding at F/LW/LB over almost the entire crop of LBs (save Kindle) and all but two other LW and that in itself will make for many comparisons in the next 2 years. If he plays and pans out as a forward, he may be credited as a sleeper pick because of the number taken ahead of him. Who knows.

    The team scored taking a Reading player with Gaddis - I think the team may do very well taking Okai here. He will start camp on the depth chart behind Lahoud and Okugo, but I think this only reinforces what Hack sees as a two-way midfield role next to Brian Carroll.

    I think the move to drop from #29 to #31 is the move of our draft. RSL gave us two picks in the first round of the supplemental to try to find gems and we are a team with great scouting of the college game. I think with 3 picks in the supplemental, we find another player that pans out.

    Reading alums Eric Schoenle (CB, West Virginia), Paul Wyatt (M/F, James Madison), Jose Gomez (AM, Creighton), and Will Bates (F, Virginia) still on the board.
     
  5. riot71

    riot71 Member+

    Dec 11, 2003
    New Jersey
  6. LuckyStriker

    LuckyStriker Member+

    Favorite club? a German one..........
    Apr 14, 2010
    in exile-Statute of Limitations yet to expire
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    sounds like Anding is converting to left........something, and I'd be ok with Bates, Gomez and Schoenle going forward.
     
  7. EmeraldDawn

    EmeraldDawn Member+

    May 11, 2008
    Brick, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess the "armchair analysts" at MLSSoccer.com aren't impressed with the draft either:

    (Our draft grade was rated as a "Wait... what?" along with Dallas.)

    Philadelphia Union – They need help at left back and central defense, and got neither. John Hackworth says there’s help on the way, but why pass on tailor-made reinforcements for two guys (Stephen Okai, Don Anding) who don’t answer any of the questions currently posed by the roster?

    Apparently they aren't fooled into thinking that Anding can play LB.

    Surprised (not really) that there's no mention of the trade with RSL. Could pay serious dividends if we hit with even one player with those two picks. If we get a guy who can consistently make the bench, I'm happy. If we get another Hoppenot, that's GREAT.
     
  8. bluestate

    bluestate Member

    Apr 1, 2011
    Bethlehem, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My hope for the Supplemental Draft would be to trade those 2 picks (#12 and 17) to move up a little bit (maybe to #8 or 9) and take the best defensive player left on the board.

    Perhaps one of these 3:
    Eric Schoenle, CD - WVU
    John Gallagher, LB - PSU
    James Belshaw, GK - Duke

    Best players left on the board (according to mlssoccer.com):

    FW:
    Ashton Bennett - Coastal Carolina
    Will Bates - Virginia

    LM:
    Uwem Etuk - West Virginia

    AM:
    Leonardo Fernandes - Stony Brook
    Michael Bustamante - Boston Univ.
    Jose Gomez - Creighton

    HM:
    Jossimar Sanchez - UConn
    Alex Isern - Winthrop
    Machael David - UCSB

    LB:
    Ryan Clark - Monmouth
    Nico Clavijo - unattached
    Jack Bennett - St. John's
    John Gallagher - Penn State

    CD:
    Eric Schoenle - West Virginia
    Jose Diaz - UC Riverside

    GK:
    James Belshaw - Duke
     
  9. UnionDues

    UnionDues Member+

    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It won't happen. This organization could fcuk up a cup of coffee. After more than a year and a half of players being played badly out of position, I've become convinced that lack of defensive depth is a feature, rather than an anomaly. Therefore, expect Hack to draft zero defenders, and instead a few more "versatile" midfielders that might be converted to defenders at some point, rather than directly address the problem. In reality, they will just ride the bench, just as our Superdraft acquisitions will.
     
    BuddhaWake, Bid&Offer and Handsome Pete repped this.
  10. bluestate

    bluestate Member

    Apr 1, 2011
    Bethlehem, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *Trying really hard not to be pessimistic*
    *Trying really hard not to be pessimistic*
    *Trying really hard not to be pessimistic* etc. etc.
     
  11. Bid&Offer

    Bid&Offer Member

    Nov 25, 2006
    Here is Topdrawersoccer review and Grade for Union draft:

    Philadelphia Union – C-
    Picks: F Don Anding (Round 2, Pick 26), MF Stephen Okai (Round 2, Pick 31)
    Philadelphia, who traded away its first pick for top spot in the MLS allocation order to bring Bakary Soumare to the city of Brotherly Love can’t get much criticism for that move. However, selecting Anding with other more natural left sided options on the board is perplexing, as local kid Greg Cochrane would have been a better pickup. Stephen Okai is talented and a known quantity to the coaching staff after playing with Reading United last summer.
     
  12. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/video/2013/01/04/mls-superdraft-don-anding

    Well, he can score goals, but I kind of want the guy who can do a flip.

    Edit: Looking at some other videos, Anding scored the game winning goal in overtime in the CAA Championship. You can never have enough fast players who will score big time goals in important matches.
     
  13. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Williams needs to bring the flip-throw into his repertoire.
     
  14. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At first glance, I thought you wrote you're looking forward to the Union paying them $37...which, probably isn't that far off.
     
  15. Tyr

    Tyr Member+

    Nov 7, 2009
    Lawrenceville
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who needs jugglers when you have one of the players doing flips on the sideline?
     
  16. Billy Zabka

    Billy Zabka Member+

    May 4, 2006
    RoFo, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From Final Whistle email - interesting bit about Damani Richards as left back

     

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