Stupid Chant Retirement thread

I personally think that this thread is way overdue. We have a songs thread where we can suggest new songs, but we don't have a place where we can suggest that certain songs get the boot, so here we are.

We as a supporters section (riders and army) have a very solid base of chants and cheers during the game, however, I think that there are few that need to go. I know that some people love the chants that I am going to mention and that is why i have called this the "retirement" thread, so that we can all appreciate the good that these chants have done in the past and we can now honorably retire them with the dignity that they deserve. The overarching issue is that these chants suck and however you want to say it they need to go and fast. I have 2 suggestions, please add on as you see fit and maybe we can actually get this to happen.

1. "Supa Revs" - I think that this is the worst chant that has ever been created. First of, it sounds terrible because half the fort doesn't do it anyways (probably because most people agree with me that it sucks), second, what the hell is the stupid fist thing? do you people actually see yourselves? you look like a bunch of uncoordinated idiots just raising your hands in the air at awkward times. third, the chant has no end, it just keeps slowing down and there is always that one a**hole that keeps it going 17 times longer than it should, thus preventing other, better, chants from happening.
Please do not give me the excuse (as some of you have told me in person) that we can't get rid of this cheer as it is the only one that we made up ourselves and did not steal/borrow from someone else. I think that argument can best be countered with the phrase "it is better to stay silent let everyone think that you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" I would rather stay quiet than sing mindless yammering that makes no sense. This chant is stupid, no one (except 7 random people) likes it, and it must be put out of it's misery forthwith.

2. "I don't know but i've been told..." - What are we 12? why don't we add "2, 4, 6, 8 who do we want to eliminate.." Also, we are not in the army, we do not wear camo gear, and we don't blindly follow orders that make no sense (unless monty says to do it in which case i turn into a lemming, but that's neither here not there). This chant also makes no sense, wouldn't we want our balls to be made of lead because it is stronger than gold? aren't we just saying that the other team is tougher and we are soft and rich? either way, this is stupid chant that needs to be put out to pasture.

There are several more things that need to be on this list, but i have decided to limit my ramblings to these two as they are the worst of the worst. I know that i am no the only one who feels this way about these two chants as many of your have agreed with me during the game when i have sat down during the singing of these two disgraceful "songs", so let's put an end to these atrocities and just take them out of our proverbial song books.

This thread has real potential to be a winner.

I personally don't like "Wipeout", as it is the trademark song of the ESC. We also don't do it that well. The ESC sang/danced it during the US/Argentina game, and our version can't hold a light to theirs.

I agree with the knock on "supah revs" but personally I dont like it because it is so freaking slow. I feel like it could be cool if done at a higher speed.

As for the "I dont know...." I cant remember the last time we did that one so it really doesnt matter.

I would put forth giving the boot to the "kha-noooooo" one because
1. He doesnt deserve one all of his own
2. The first time I ever heard us doing that was the game after playing chicago where there supporters did the same thing with "chi-ca-gooooooo"
(since this is basically the same reason people dont like "wipeout" I feel most disagreement with those people on this will be nonexistant )

So tell me, who decides what chants we "retire"?

I for one think this thread is shit and should be retired...

As for the chants already mentioned....The Supah Revs chant has been around as long as I can remember...Long before I came to the Fort in '03 I can remember that chant in the old stadium, maybe as early as year 1. I'm sure one of the "old timers" can clarify...To "retire" this would be stupid...

I like Wipeout as well...when it's done by a competent drummer of course! I do agree tha ESC does it better, mostly because of the movement but I don't think anyone "owns" the song...

The "I Don't Know" chant is a good lead in to RE VO LUTION and is usually only done once or twice a match at most, at the end of half or full time....Monty can clarify but I believe this came out of Sam's Army as well...

I love the KHA NOOOOOOOOO song! I don't think he or many of us realize if this is a positive or negative chant towards him....for me anyway it'll always be when he screws up...which is usually early and often...To say Section 8 "owns" this tune is foolish as variations have been heard being sung by supporters all around the world...


I think the biggest problem with the Forts chants are people that wither cannot hear what's being chanted in the front or rear....or people decide they dont like what one is doing and start another before the other is finished...either way it's bullshit...We should be better!



JMO's of course!

1) The last thing the Fort needs to do is speed up the chants.
2) Seven Nation Army is done around the world, and WAS NOT originated in Chicago.
3) No chant should be retired. Who are any of you, newbies or vets, to say what a whole section can and can not do.

If you don't like a chant, then don't chant it. The ones that are stupid will go away eventually.

By the way Kilt, you are suggesting that the Fort eliminate half it's catalog. If we do that then we'll have as many songs as Chicago. We'll see how many people here will like that.

Rep'd

This thread =

Yea the "I don't know" chant does suck, but if people like it.....
I skip it anyway, because I am (legally) an adult.

honestly, when was the last time it was done? I cant remember it this season.

Pretty much every chant the "Rev Army" sings should be retired, because their cheers are for themselves and not the Revolution. We know "You're the army, the army, the army over there." But there's a Revs game, a Revs game, a Revs game over there. Cheer for them, not you.

Wipeout sucks because it's just like a big dance party - screw soccer tonight guys, I just wanna dance.

And that guy who screams out "LA LA... LA LA..." in response to "You know we love New England" should be executed.

My $0.02.

I would think that trying to get a chant retired from the fort while on the internet will be about 1 / 1,000th as successful as trying to get a chant started in the fort while on the internet.

Just bored so sarcastically throwing out the "this thread sucks" quote out there. But would like to think that boring chants would fade over time. At first I thought the "Lets have sex" chant was stupid, but it definately added a few more fans over the past games including me. I'd rather add more chants into our routine than delete them.

The team is playing like a mediocre high school team and this is the thread that gets started? Wow.

Can't say I'm really all that surprised....

The majority of people that's who, and as most of the people that start chants are on bigsoccer and post here, if they don't start it, it will fade away

This is just stupid. what you are saying is "we have been doing it forever, why stop it now" brilliant aurgument

I suggested 2 songs. if that's half our catalong than we are already as pathetic as chicago.


I also like the khanooooooo chant, but saying khano no no no nooooooo is the way that i do it when he screws up. i have never had the chance to just say his name cause he hasn't done anything good since we started doing it

I'm sorry: revs are tired, lets fire SN, i hate the front office for not spending more money, mls rules suck, we need a DP, i can't believe we rested our players in the open cup for this, there goes the supporters shield, and we need an SSS. is that better?

Come get me, asshat. I'm the one singing at the games.

The majority hate Supah Revs? The majority of what, your friends?

Face it, most of our chants are stupid, both the old ones and the newer ones. Some are extra stupid. Doesn't mean they'll stop. There are plenty that many people find offensive and don't do. Offensive as in stupid and poor taste. So choose what you want to participate in and what you don't.

A lot of people have tried to write new songs or start new chants, and they are shot down by "the majority". So we're better off continuing as we are, IMO.

Wait, let's do the wave, instead.

Agreed with the Rev Army chants, their purpose should be to support the Revolution, not self-advertise during the course of a match. If you want to sing in support of them team, go ahead, but a section of you singing about your supporters group is less effective than a whole Fort singing a Revolution song in unison. We don't sing about how we're the Riders, because that isn't important during the match, what is is supporting the squad.

I think the attitude of "if you dont like it, dont sing it" is retarded. Thats what leads to the forts problems. This is why the fort has sucked so badly this year as compared to previous years. People dont like a chant (and many of them are so stupid that only a few people actually like it) and don't sing it, so they start another chant and the fort sounds like crap.
I agree with the premise of this thread. Some chants need to go. Regardless, we need to get the whole fort on the same page, so that situations that happen every 30 seconds, like the front doing wipeout while the back does rev army rah rah rah, does not happen anymore.

Unless everyone thinks the fort is golden the way it has been this season, I think we need to work on things here.

So what if the Rev Army does their own chants? So what if they want to self promote within the section? They are still making noise and creating atmosphere. And as a matter of fact, many of the chants we do today were created by the Rev Army, so we ought to remember that. Many MLS teams have more than 1 supporters group and all of these groups want to identify themselves in a larger group. I call your attention to "I wanna be a Midnight Rider" chant, which, while not usually chanted in the stadium, is still a Riders-specific chant. And, um, don't most of the Riders wear Riders-centric scarves? This might not be a verbal identification, but still it is a form of identification. What is the point of bitching about various supporters groups trying to identify themselves? They are there to support the team, and aren't we all?

The Supah Revs chant originated a long time ago, possibly from the very beginning of MLS. It was being done with full participation when I started coming to games in '99. The fist pumping is supposed to be done in rhythm with each syllable, and believe me, when done correctly and by many, it looks very cool.

Why should we discuss abolishing chants? I thought the point was to get more people involved and vocal. If we are to start picking and choosing chants and deciding which are "stupid" or not, how will anyone ever want to participate? The simple solution is to just shut your mouth if you don't like the chant. I am not exactly a quiet person, as you all know, but there are some chants I am not a fan of, but I deal with it because I appreciate any noise and atmosphere in the section. And to the people who keep yelling out "(insert chant name here) sucks" when people are chanting it, you suck. Instead of yelling about the chants, expend the same energy and start your own.

Spazz

It's usually only done by the first few rows. One guy up there chants, while some of the people repeat it. If you stand further back, you wont hear it.

I've heard it done a couple of times this year.

I really hope that the people who take a strong interest in determining what is said and done in the Fort online will take a very pro-active approach come game time in implementing songs and chants.

Shouting "I love spatulas!" for 90 minutes would also be "making noise", however it is neither noise that supports the team or will carry through out the rest of the section.

My point of contention was with the Army exclusive cheers, not the Army in general. The Fort should be inclusive, not exclusive.

The groups should be unified in support of the team for 90 minutes.

I don't think I've ever heard this done during a match, which would make your example totally irrelevant. We're talking about 15 people singing "Holy shit we're in the Army and it's ********ing cool!" while we could have 400 people singing "From the halls of Foxboro Stadium..."

My point wasn't Rev Army = Bad, Riders = Good, my point was if you're going to sing make it a song that everyone will join in on, not a small group in the Fort as a whole.

See above.

You were quite thorough in your response, and while I appreciate your thoughts, I'm sticking by my own.

By the way, I do like spatulas! But making snide remarks and cute little rolleyes faces in response to others' efforts is about as relevant as your spatula comment. You can do what you want with your spatula.

And did you happen to miss where I clarified the "I wanna be a Midnight Rider" chant? About not doing it inside the stadium? Guess so. And if my points weren't made well enough to your liking, or if you choose to disagree, we'll just leave it at that.

Spazz

Wow, great thread. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to walk into the room next to mine and cut the cord on the computer from which it was generated.

Which is fine, much in the same way as if those in the Army wish to continue to do said cheers they can. The Fort is a state of anarchy, but it is because of that anarchy that it works; if you made to do cheers by force no one would want to sit there.

The comment itself was relevant, spatula was merely a variable that could have been replaced with any other non-Revs specific item.

I did, I just felt like re-iterating that we were talking about during play specifically, since it appeared you had missed my point in my original post and took it as an anti-Rev Army post.

I don't think its that your points weren't made well enough, but rather that we are arguing two different things.