Starting XI Predictions for 2014 World Cup!

Discussion in 'Japan' started by JMontero, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Skyhawk

    Skyhawk Member

    Sep 28, 2008
    Denver, Colorado
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Here's who I think will go to WC 2014

    GK (3)

    Eiji Kawashima
    Shuichi Gonda
    Seigo Narazaki

    DEF (7)

    Yuto Nagatomo
    Yasuyuki Komano
    Maya Yoshida
    Gotoku Sakai
    Hiroki Sakai
    Tomoaki Makino
    Mizuki Hamada

    MF (10)

    Makoto Hasebe
    Keisuke Honda
    Shinji Kagawa
    Hiroshi Kiyotake
    Takashi Usami
    Hajime Hosogai
    Genki Haraguchi
    Akimi Barada
    Yuki Otsu
    Gaku Shibasaki


    FW (3)

    Mike Havenaar
    Tadanari Lee
    Kensuke Nagai

    LINEUP:

    ---------------Havenaar---------------
    Kagawa---------Honda--------Kiyotake
    ---------Shibasaki-----Hasebe(c)-------
    Nagatomo---Makino---Yoshida---H.Sakai
    --------------Kawashima---------------

    SUBS:

    Gonda
    G.Sakai
    Hamada
    Barada
    Usami
    Hosogai
    Lee

    I don't really think Nikki is gonna be ready by WC2014, he is too young, and needs to improve his game a lot. I never really liked Konno too much, unlike you guys, and I think Makino will definitely return to his best and grab that starting spot. Now Shibasaki was a wildcard, but I don't really think Endo will continue at the age of 34, for that reason we need to find a new one, the only one that I can think of is Shibasaki, the kid is a huge talent, he will be the one that has to have a breakout 2012-2013 season. Attacking mid spots are pretty standard. I prefer Kiyotake to Usami, and between Lee and Havenaar, I picked Havenaar because I feel he will blow up in Europe, and his size is a huge advantage!
     
  2. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You're not taking Endo to WC2014?
    This is madness..


    This IS SPARTAAA! :lol:
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  3. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Nakamura was in South Africa but did not play much and Shunsuke was 32.

    For midfielder age is even deadlier than for defenders or even strikers. Yes ofcourse there are some who can still play incredible even in their 30s, 31, 32...and than it slowly but surely stops when they reach 34 there are not many who can play on a good enough level for national team. I don't think even the likes of Xavi will be able to.
    It is simply too demanding, midfielders have to make constant runs and be really agile players in general. I think that Endo has a chance to make it to Brazil 2014 squad, however I dont think he will be in the first 11.
    He will be a super sub in times when team needs experience and to boost the squad in general and give them guidance.
     
  4. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    Nov 27, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I think Narazaki won't be at WC.

    Anyway, here's the line-up that I'd like to see.

    ---------------Havenaar---------------
    -Kagawa---------Honda--------Usami---
    ---------Yamamura-----Hasebe----------
    Nagatomo---Makino---Yoshida-----Uchida
    ---------------Kawashima---------------
     
  5. AKITOD

    AKITOD Member+

    Apr 5, 2007
    Hobart, Aust
    Club:
    JEF United Ichihara
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    To save you all some time, Seigo Narazaki has officially retired from Japan NT.
     
  6. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    At around July, I'll take the 2010 squad and will compare it with the 2012 one just to see how many new players there is.
    My point is, there is no way to predict what the line up will be so this is so far a waste of your time. Besides, if you put Makino ahead of Konno, you are someone who cares more about hype than skills, and Whispered, the "biggest mystery of japanese football" is not one, Kanazaki was injured and spent most of the year on the bench.
     
  7. nextworldorder

    nextworldorder New Member

    Sep 4, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
  8. c shima

    c shima Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Using the classic 4-2-3-1

    Goalkeeper: Kawashima

    Leftback: Nagatomo
    Centerback: Yoshida
    Centerback: Tulio
    Rightback: Hiroki Sakai

    Central Midfielder: Hasebe
    Central Midfielder: Hosogai

    Left Winger: Miyaichi
    Attacking Midfielder: Kagawa
    Right Winger: Honda

    Striker: Okazaki

    Goalkeeper bench: Nishikawa, Gonda
    Defense bench: Uchida, Gotoku Sakai, Konno, Makino
    Midfield bench: Endo, Naoki Yamada, Kiyotake, Usami
    Striker bench: Havenaar, Lee

    Tulio might be a pipe dream, but I guess we can wish for it. As for moving Okazaki back to striker, our attacking midfield will be so good by then that I think we'll need to move him to make room for guys like Miyaichi, who will be absolutely amazing by 2014. Okazaki can also be moved back to left winger if necessary, which is why I only listed four back up midfielders. Hosogai's gotten really good with Augsburg recently, and hopefully he'll slot in as a starter when he goes back to Leverkusen so I marked him as Endo's replacement. As for Endo, I think he'll still be good enough to play for the national team, though I suspect he might be retained to act as a sort of Kawaguchi/Narazaki figure and provide general leadership (it'll be his 4th World Cup!!). Finally, I'm not sure if Honda's much of a right winger, but I want to move him there to accommodate Miyaichi and Kagawa. If this doesn't work out, then another possible attacking midfield configuration could be Kagawa on the left, Honda in the middle, and Kiyotake on the right.

    I'm really, really excited for the Confederations Cup and Brazil 2014. Can't wait to see all our young up-and-comers, especially Miyaichi, Usami, Kiyotake, and Hiroki Sakai...it's gonna be awesome !!
     
  9. uhdfkwncvbgtyhu89

    Nov 27, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I've changed my mind.

    ---------------Okazaki (Havenaar)------
    Miyaichi---------Kagawa--------Honda
    ---------Hosogai-----Hasebe(c)-------
    Nagatomo---Suzuki---Yoshida---H.Sakai
    --------------Kawashima---------------
     
  10. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    Two points:

    1- Ok Endo is an amazing player and so on, Konno is experienced etc. but please don't make the mistake to build a JNT2014 based on old geezers, this is a typical mistake that italian coaches do everytime.
    Endo will be too old. Konno not so much but it will be better to use a younger cb imo (maybe that Iwanami guy from PSV?).

    2- No one of you have even thought about Miyaichi as a starter. I know he had a poor half-season in Bolton but if this guy will be not a starter (in place of someone like Usami and Kiyotake) in the future JNT this would mean his adventure in Arsenal has been a complete failure... I hope not!
     
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  11. sc-f

    sc-f Member+

    May 23, 2009
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    There's too many things I want to say here... but boy, you are rushing things too much.

    As for any NT you have to handle callups and omissions sensitively. We don't know if we'll have somebody who fulfills the role of Endo or Konno in two years time. If we have, I don't like a coach who demotes Endo or Konno from one day to another just to try somebody on their position, disregarding the psychological effects demoting regulars has (on all the team). As for building up options, I think Zac is doing that, otherwise we wouldn't have seen Sakai, Kiyotake, Hosogai getting some minutes.

    Also, using older players is not a typical Italian thing. You see that everywhere, and sometimes it's successful, sometimes not. But you can't possibly accuse Zac of hanging on too much to his older players, as Endo is the only one who will perhaps be past his prime in two years time.

    Your second point: Are you talking about the Olympic squad? Usami has not even played a full NT match yet, and Kiyotake's NT career just started, why/how should Miyaichi be used over them? Just to prove that he's no failure at Arsenal... ? I think not. Usually it should be the other way around: The player produces performances at the club to prove he is a success at the NT, it's not like the NT is the stepping stone for the career at the club.
     
  12. KATO

    KATO Member

    Nov 26, 2011
    Manchester
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Wait till Iwanami actually steps onto the pitch as a proffesional footballer, even if he has two amazing seasons at Vissel (Ousting guys like Inoha etc) he'll only be 20 at Brazil 2014. I was hoping Suzuki/Hamada/Yamamura step up their game but Toulon showed they have a looong way to go.

    Again, if Konno is going to be replaced then IMO Tulio is the guy, won't happen though.
     
  13. SugarDaddySean

    Feb 12, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ------------------Lee-------------
    Miyaichi-------Kagawa(C)--------Honda
    ---------Usami-----Hosogai-------
    Nagatomo---H.Sakai---Yoshida---G.Sakai
    --------------Kawashima---------------

    Bench: Kiyotake, Uchida, Makino, Konno, Inoha, Lee, Havenaar, Endo, Gonda

    To me this would be a very complete team with players that all play in Europe(or are projected to), young athletic and in the prime or entering the prime of their careers in 2014. I kinda threw H.Sakai's name in the middle because he's tall and Japan has such poor depth at CB I really didn't know who to say. I wish Zac would use Tulio, Im not big on Konno and Makino is too small and soft to be a CB. Hopefully someone will emerge. To me Gotoku is ahead of Hiroki until he plays in Europe and shows his stuff. He didn't impress me all that much vs. Oman, but neither did Uchida. Both were ok, still waiting to see Gotoki with the JNT.

    Sorry to say but IMO Endo is done now and in 2014 he will be a senior citizen, and Hasebe seems to be on the decline as well and his club career in Germany is shaky hardly playing and when he does its out of position. Hosogai showed me a lot in his little time vs. Oman and of course playing in Germany he is very impressive as a player. So he replaces Hasebe. People are always saying who will replace Endo...well, its impossible to replace a legend. But Usami is a player with decent touch, he's young and still can develop and since the MF is so crowded he can be stuck in place of Endo. If not I feel Honda would be a good candidate there as he is a great passer and dead ball player, but I know he likes to be near the goal so who knows for that spot, I'm sure someone will emerge...I also wouldn't mind the pairing of Hosogai and Hasebe(if he gets consistent playing time in Germany and is in good form).

    Other than that, the forwards are interchangeable depending on the matchup or form. Lee, Okazaki, Havenaar, maybe even Morimoto all can get in there, they have to fight for that spot. The super sub for the team is Okazaki who can play up top or as a winger, but the emergence of Ryo is evident and the thought of him and Nagatomo on one side is exciting so Okazaki gets pushed out of the lineup.

    Japan has a lot to figure out come 2014, they are a very strong side, but they an take it to another level, they are a few players away from being one of the worlds best and a favorite for the WC. Yes, I said it!
     
  14. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Usami as a volante? wow

    Hiroki Sakai as central defender? double wow
     
  15. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    ------------------Sugiuchi-------------
    Watanabe-------Misaki(C)--------Wada
    ---------Katsunaka-----Nakajima-------
    Ogasawara---Matsunaka---Iura---Akaminai
    --------------Kitagaki---------------
     
  16. SugarDaddySean

    Feb 12, 2011
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say at this point, anyone would be an upgrade over Endo as a 'volante', if you even want to throw that word around as if Endo is one anymore. I think the problem most people have is they want a player that will be Endo or the Endo of old to be exact, but that won't happen. The sooner people get over that, the sooner it will be that a player replaces him and the team improves.

    And same goes for the CB position, Yoshida is not very good, but he's young and tall and strong, but his decision making and defensive technique are not good. And he's supposed to be our future at CB and seems to be a unanimous pick on everyones mock team. Wouldn't take much for anyone to displace him I feel, but people have their preferences and dwell too much on potential and not results and live in the past. Hiroki Sakai's name being there is simply to bring attention to the fact that there are not many worthy candidates at the CB position and that he(H.Sakai) needs to be on the field just not ahead of Gotoku.
     
  17. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    man I'm happy you weren't in Toulon because your dreams of G.Sakai being a world beater would have been crushed.
     
  18. SkyPiercer

    SkyPiercer Member

    Jan 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Algeria
    Who are these guys ?
     
  19. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    you don't know them yet but they're going to boss the field in 2014.
     
  20. Blue-San

    Blue-San Member+

    Jun 21, 2011
    Club:
    Kashima Antlers
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Saku not all of them have learned your sarcasm, which btw I personally really like, but can see how some who dont know much about Japanese football can find confusing

    So just to be clear Saku is making a joke (well all but perhaps Watanabe :ninja:)
     
  21. teioh

    teioh Member+

    Apr 17, 2012
    I find this kinda nerdo.
     
  22. GunnerTNB

    GunnerTNB Member+

    Apr 4, 2011
    São Paulo
    Club:
    Botafogo Rio Janeiro
    Is it a team of wrestlers? lol

    I try to imagine how the team will look like in the future, but things change and you can't really predict them. It will be fun to read this topic in two years time.
     
  23. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I tried to find names that weren't on the team already so it's a bunch of actors and pro yakyu players.
     
  24. weka

    weka Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    Hmm, If Endo continues to play to 2014 (and given his age) and I think he will. He will most likely be in the Starting XI for Japan and WC2014 will most likely be his last major tournament. He will be 34. Old? Yeah but not to the point where he is unusable. People like Di Natle, Pirlo, Puyol, are 33 and over and they still make it happen. Endo can make it happen, too.

    Endo in the starting XI for 2014? Most likely, my guess.
     
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  25. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Yeah, I guess so too, but at the same time I'm hoping someone steps up and gets as good. I know it's hard, but I really hope for it.
     
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