Starting Own Club?

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  1. magicmom17

    magicmom17 New Member

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    What does one need to start her/his own club? Such as paperwork from USYSA or US Club? Insurance? Please explain and be specific. The club would only be one team and one age group.
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  2. TopSoc

    TopSoc New Member

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    For sure you need insurance and also a feild to play and practice on. Without insurance you cant have a feild. I would approach the league you intend to play in to find the registration requirements and they will also have ideas about insurance
  3. rca2

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    Need? Management, coaching, players, space and equipment. I assume that you already have players and coaching. You can buy a field, rent a private field, or get a permit for a public field. Whoever owns the field will set the requirements for obtaining the field. It may involve obtaining liability or property insurance or signing releases. It also normally costs money. If you want to play matches then the tounament organizers and league managers determine what your requirments are to participate. It may involve USSF affiliation or it may not. There may be further requirements regarding referees.

    You should, but don't need to, organize the club as a legal person such as a corporation to limit the liability of the club members for the acts of others in the club. Clubs and teams can affiliate with USSF and obtain some benefits from membership such as limited insurance and a limited priority for assigment of USSF referees.

    Organizing a new club can be quite a hassle. If you merely want to leave an existing club for whatever reason, it may be less hassle to switch to a different club. How involved changing clubs is depends on your state organization rules, if you are leaving a USSF affiliated club. In fact in some states they may restrict your players, if they are currently in a USSF affiliated club, from joining your new club during the current year without the former clubs permission.
  4. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator Staff Member

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    If you're going to insist that people be specific with their answers, you should perhaps provide a little more specific information in your initial query. Details about the specific circumstance and why you want to create a new club for one single squad would be helpful.


  5. gn2goal

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    sounds like trouble in magic land and we all know the grass is greener on the other side. just saying:p
  6. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator Staff Member

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    Specific things like--what age group is this one squad? How long-term are your plans?

    Is this simply a matter of one squad (read: the Parents) being unhappy with the local club and wanting to stay together? Do you just need to register as a travel/select team for league play and tournaments?
  7. GoStorm

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    My son a few years back played with all his buddies from the community and we joined the NISL - northern illinois soccer league. We payed a fee and got insurance for the kids through them. We wound up playing or calling home to a couple of fields but only had to sign waivers from the owners of said fields and since we were a kids group with kids from the community they waived the nominal rental fee($25each time). 1 of the school fields we used charged us once $50. NISL provided insurance for the kids after homeowners stopped or a part thereof. But knock on wood we never had to make a claim.
    You can do it pretty cheaply - you can also investigate local arenas for indoor and play in a local league. Getting practice time from them will be a bit expensive though - usually $100 an hour & up. And some of those leagues can be a pricey as well.
    Or you can spend a lot of time and money and do it up - uniforms / warmups / maintenance of a field / field rentals / payed coaches etc.
    there 2 ends of a spectrum here it just depends on how elaborate you want to get and how much time you want to involve yourself
  8. GoStorm

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    oh ya - referees? If you know people you can always find a referee or even check with the local high school for a number of an assignor. We always just payed them cash at the game. They were patched refs.
    Like I said - it can be done
  9. magicmom17

    magicmom17 New Member

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    Ok thank you so far for all of this information.

    We already have a group a kids who said they would join.
    We have a field to play on.
    We have referees.
    And we have a coach.

    What I want the team to be able to do is play in a lot of tournaments. Such as the Disney tournament next year, Surf Cup, maybe a tournament in Arizona, etc. And then we also look to play several tournaments around the area. Then we would like to play in our local leagues such as NISL and/or YSSL. And of course play in out state cup, Illinois.

    And yes the club will have the money for a sponsor has already agreed to cover the cost.

    The club will only be one team.

    So how do I make a team??? Do I need to register the club with United States Youth Soccer Association (USYSA) and/or US Club??? If so, then how do I do this? Anything more that I will need.

    Please Help
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  10. rca2

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  11. magicmom17

    magicmom17 New Member

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    So I could still create my own club for this spring season and participate in NISL, YSSL, and the IYSA state cup, correct?
  12. rca2

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    I didn't read the rules (or even link the state cup rules) so I have no clue. I don't know if its possible for one team to compete in both leagues. For all I know you may not even have players that qualify for an age bracket allowed by the cup organizers. I don't even know if your players are boys, girls or a mix. Your posts indicate that the first thing your club needs to get is a knowledgable manager who can get you through this process.
  13. GoStorm

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    contact the NISL and speak to them - they are very nice over there in the office and will be very happy to help you
    In the past when I called them - they assisted me with every question I had and I am sure they will be able to answer your questions
    I am going to a conference where the what is it - IYSO will be at and I will take your questions to them and I am sure they can answer
  14. magicmom17

    magicmom17 New Member

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    Thank you everyone for all of this information thus far

    Another question, How do I register players to the club??
    "No guest players. All players must be registered with the club and league and in possession of a league sanctioned ID card."

    I am pretty sure that all I need for a league sanctioned ID card is to roster the player to my team but how do I register players to the club?
  15. Bird1812

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    It's been a while since I did this, start a new club beginning with one team, but IIRC all we had to do was decide who we were going to affiliate with (USYS via the state association, US Club Soccer or both). The team was going to play in local tournaments and league that were USYS affiliated, so we registered through the state association. That simply meant completing a roster that included player's name (in alphabetical order), address and telephone number and mailing to the state office with the appropriate registration fee. A signed roster will then be returned to you. You will also be required to have a copy of the player's birth certificate or some other form of ID that verified birth date. This is something you will need to keep on file and will be checked at tournaments, so I would suggest you maintain a three ring binder that you take to every game for rosters (multiple copies which are needed for each league game and tournament) and birth certificates maintained in alphabetical order. We also needed to complete player passcards that included a small picture of each player. Once completed and signed by the league registrar, I kept the passcards in alphabetical order on a separate ring that was then attached to my binder. Passcards needed to be presented to the refereee at each league game and when registering with a tournament. Keeping them on the ring and in alphabetical order, made the process easier to check against the roster. It also made it easier for me to make sure all passcards were returned to me at the end of a game. A team manager's greatest nightmare is losing 1 or all of a team's passcards.

    I think you will find that continuity of roster will be the deciding factor of what leagues, division and tournaments your team will be able to get in to. You will need to read the rules of the league and tournaments including state cups to see how this will affect your team.

    Here are some tips from our state league that may be of help to you even though you are from a different state:

    http://www.maplesoccer.com/pages/5_frequently_asked_questions.cfm

    http://www.maplesoccer.com/pages/513_rosters_passcards.cfm
  16. slsgdad

    slsgdad New Member

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    Good luck to you magicmom. Starting your own "club" is not easy and usually does not work out. Depending on the level that you are speaking of, a one team show will have a difficult time representing themselves and getting into competivie tournaments. My main question to ask yourself would be who and why are you interested in doing this. Is it for the kids or for the parents. The grass is almost never greener.
  17. TexasScr

    TexasScr New Member

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    I don't know anything about starting your own club, so I can't address most of your questions. However, your comments about tournaments - I think it is unrealistic to expect to get into some of the ones you listed (especially if you mean the Disney Showcase around Christmas). You typically need significant background to show beating extremely competitive teams; winning state USYS crown, etc. You will be able to do many Showcase tournaments, just possibly not the Disney and Surf or CASL.
  18. Bird1812

    Bird1812 New Member

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    It is difficult, but not impossible. Magicmom can enter a tournament as XYZ United, formerly ABC Soccer Club if she can prove continuity of the new team's/club's roster. If not, she maybe able to sell the team to the tournaments on the experience of the players on the team.
  19. TexasScr

    TexasScr New Member

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    I would say "theoretically possible". I doubt they get in, but they could. Proving continuity might work; I doubt player experience really helps for the top tournaments. But you say "ta-mah-toe" and I say "ta-may-toe". They will certainly be able to get into some tournaments.
  20. GoStorm

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    look for some bigger local club tournaments and win those - get a name for your team and it could help your chances
    My son played with a local group of kids and we went to some tournaments and the other teams had heard of us and knew who we were
    And these teams cross each other in so many ways - we have kids who play with several teams and they cross paths and they know kids all around the area - PR PR PR
    In time good things can happen - and will follow the natural course
  21. kix123

    kix123 New Member

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    whatever happened? Did u start a team? I don't think "tournament teams" can play in state cup.

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