Stadium Profitability

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Revolt, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, the language he uses throughout makes it seem somewhat of a political hit piece rather than investigative journalism.

    For myself, as soon as I believe a writer has his thumbs on the scale like this guy does, I become alot less persuadable.
     
  2. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shit, if you read the article, you'll see that soccer even is responsible for a murder.
     
  3. Tyneside4life

    Tyneside4life Member

    Jul 18, 2007
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  5. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I think I remember that being the case in Chicago, but then Bridgeview said they'd pay it all.
    [​IMG]
     
  6. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Was that an ABA or WNBA team of some kind?

    *ducks*
     
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  7. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Correct.
     
  8. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aside from this, the money Chester kicked in came from casino revenues that, as I understand, could only be used for a development project like PPL Park. I do not think the Union or it's parent company are trying to screw Chester deliberately. It's going to be tough to build something in a distressed area as it is. The real estate market collapsing just adds to the difficulty. We also do not have any context around the missed payment.
     
  9. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Close to winning their second NBA championship.

    Obligatory *Ducks*
     
  10. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    mls stadiums are stating to stink already.
     
  11. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  12. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    Painting with a broad brush, on the other hand, has been en vogue for ages.;)
     
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  13. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You gotta admit, though, that Commerce City does stink a bit.
     
  14. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I dunno, they sure are bending over backwards for the new proposed NBA arena.. Of course, the outlay that Hanson is getting from the city/county is significantly smaller than the outlay that Schultz and Bennett wanted for the Key Arena remodel and the Hansen arena is supposed to be paid via user fees compared to an extension of the existing stadium tax on hotels, rental cars, etc for the KeyArena remodel.
     
  15. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wasn't there already a 12-13k stadium there along with all the nearby infrastructure? That could keep costs down pretty nicely.
     
  16. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    The 13k version of Saputo cost $17 million. It cost another $23 million to bring it up to $20k.
     
  17. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I know this is a small typo, but this is a lot funnier than it should be to me.:oops:
     
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  18. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    Are the Union doing anything for the local Chester community ex. soccer camps, free tickets, community gatherings. Perhaps if they did, maybe there would be a better working relationship.
     
  19. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL WUT ?

    Community MVP, Hometown Hero, or this little section from their website: http://www.philadelphiaunion.com/foundation

    That took all of two seconds to check on their website. Perhaps if you did things like that before posting like you have you wouldn't seem so ignorant.
     
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  20. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A stadium isn't about turning a profit, it's about the benefit to the surrounding areas and community. If they run a profit then all the better, but I've always been irked by people who use this argument as a reason why not to build a stadium.
     
  21. Absolute

    Absolute BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 18, 2007
    Green Hell
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My favorite stadium deals are when the NFL owners threaten to move the team unless the county builds them a new stadium, funded by raising taxes on everyone. Like the Glazers did in Tampa, lol. They even made Tampa pay operating expenses while they (Glazers) keep the money.

    In my opinion, stadium deals sometimes seem like a too good to be true deal, where everyone but well connected cronies and owners actually profit. It's lame.
     
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  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Lol...all they have to do is mention LA and its amazing how everyone come through....
     
  23. UPinSLC

    UPinSLC Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and they almost NEVER do.

    this is no surprise, back when RSL was fighting tooth and nail for the financing to build their stadium there were a number of articles/studies brought up from previous stadium projects (from MLB, NBA and NFL projects), pretty much none of the stadium projects had any sort of economic impact on the neighborhoods and cities they were built in. this was a pretty big sticking point for the cities/county/state RSL was trying to get money from as the team was trying to sell the idea of developing its proposed stadium site into a large district. i cant remember who did the studies, but there were a few of them.

    using public funds for a stadium project is almost universally a bad idea/money loser.
     
  24. Mstars96

    Mstars96 Member

    Jul 13, 2003
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Harrison is getting much better, finally you see one building complete, something in front of stadium going up and a huge building being demolished, that will be called the Harrison station, so there is movement, who knows if rentals and retail space will be sold but it's moving, 5 years of a miserable looking neighborhood with a stadium in middle now showing signs of life.
     
  25. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    City of Toronto owns BMO Field.......MLSE manages it.......split stadium net operating profits 50/50......i believe the City has received a cheques each year thus far.

    It was a convenient, complicated and not very controversial financing deal......but it seems to have been pretty successful.
     

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