I've tried to stay silent; really I have. But I just can't stay silent after the embarrassment that was our stadium atmosphere last night for the World Cup Qualifier. So here we go. Forgive me if this is just your run-of-the-mill yearly rant from some random supporter. I didn't post this in the subforum because it deserves the attention of all of us--and I'm probably not the only one guilty of not checking subforums often enough. Background: I first started watching soccer as an adult when I went to BYU PDL games and met a group of crazy guys who beat drums and yelled the whole games--and I thought they were amazing. They told me about the Utah Blitzz and invited me up to a game. I started going regularly to Blitzz games and standing with the 5-10 guys (RAF--Radical Attitude Fans) who would stand and chant and scream and pound on drums. It was the most fun I'd had in a long time. When we heard we were getting an MLS team, the RAF transitioned naturally into the first supporters group for RSL under a new name. That first year, the Loyalists stood together and made a lot of noise and pounded drums and did a great job with atmosphere. The RCB was formed almost immediately after the Loyalists and brought their own flavor of fandom. A lot of TV broadcasts and articles complimented RSL as having a very intelligent fan base and creating better atmosphere than other teams in the league. And then... it became clear that there was trouble in paradise. There were major ego issues within the Loyalists' leadership, fighting between groups, and everything started to fall apart. I think the FO got stuck in the middle of petty fighting that should never have happened. I was so annoyed by the situation and the egos that I was dealing with (and also had some major personal stresses that needed attention) that I quit going to games for about five years. So now that I'm back, I do feel like I don't have any right to complain about where things are because I abandoned the effort for so long. When I came back to BigSoccer and started going to games again, I was very happy to see so many organized supporters groups. However, the same tension between groups seems to still exist. I can't afford season tickets right now, so I hope those actively involved right now will correct me if I say anything wrong. It seems from comments I've read that people have essentially given up on trying to improve communication between groups or coordinate things in the stadium. I sense a lot of exhaustion from people who have put in effort and not seen results. I have a desire to put in time and effort and money to improve the atmosphere in the stadium, but what can one person do? I don't have a group of people that could fill in that old Loyalists section with some new recreation of supporters group. I don't have legitimacy with the existing supporters groups. But I have a desire to make things better. I think big and I'm good at achieving remarkable things. But ... I'm just one person. I know there are a LOT of you on this board who have put in eight years of effort to improve the stadium atmosphere and achieved great things. Are we ready to take things to another level? What works for those of you in various parts of the stadium? Does anybody even want to have the conversation? Would it even be worthwhile for me to throw ideas out there or are people convinced that things are good enough/not going to change/why the hell are you stirring the pot, Lizzie Bee? Paging Lurpy, Aero, and others who might have some unique perspectives on this situation. My intention was not to criticize those who are doing fabulous things already but to open a dialogue about how to take it to a new level, so I hope I have not come across as condescending or ignorant. Long-winded can't be helped.