Just curious if Americans of Spanish decent are considered which one of these if not many: Europeans Mediterranean White Hispanic Latino I have always considered Latinos to be from Central + South America. If I had to guess, it would be all the top 4.
very good question.....since they speak spanish id call em hispanics, and latinos.....wouldnt call em white though....europeans yea, med. yea...but i just call them hispanics for the most part
As a person of Spanish heritage I would consider them European, White (what would you call Fernando Torres, many Spaniards look like him), not Med., not Latino in the US version of the word(used to mean someone from Latin America and thus includes Brazilians) and Hispanic - yes but the my definition is different from what the US Census uses.
If i asked you "are african americans "british" or "anglosaxon"?"(calling an african american "anglosaxon" is as ridiculous as calling the average mexican etc "latino" or "hispanic" but you americans made sure to call discriminated people this way discrediting these terms and the Spaniards and the white latinamericans so they dont sound ridiculous to you,but they are) you would chuckle and think we are a bunch of uncultured fools.So now you know what we think of those americans asking stupid questions.I dont blame them tho because they made them believe that mexicans etc are "Spanish" just because they speak Cervantes language.What do they teach you at school,americans? Real latinos are the people from southern Europe and the direct descendants of these in latinamerica,the rest call themselves "latinos"(there are black "latinos" too)but they are mostly native americans. In the states you dont have this "confusion" since the "americans" wiped all the native americans out and the ones you didnt exterminate are on reservations. In the states people have a distorted image of the Spanish because the "ilegal aliens" speak Spanish and you call them "Spanish" If you say "Im Spanish" in Europe or Asia people go "wow thats cool" because they know who the Spanish are,however if you say "Im Spanish" in the states people think of the "ilegal aliens" WHY?? Because you call (im not saying all of you call them spanish but many do) everybody who speak Spanish "Spanish" Would you like it if we called u "english"? That wouldnt be slandering tho because the english arent discriminated against like mexicans etc are. Whenever you hear someone say Spanish and that person is not Spanish,correct them because if it wasnt for the Spaniards there would be no America ladies and gentlemen. Hey catfish are african americans "british"? I mean they speak english,no?
Since I fall in this category my mom is from Merida and I was born in Spain I have always considered myself Caucasian (White). My kids who are 75% Spanish since my wife is Spanish also consider themselves Caucasians. The only thing I have in common with people from the Spanish speaking coúntries in Central and South America is the Spanish language and the Catholic religion. And when people ask me if I am hispanic or Spanish American I tell them that I am an American and that I was born in Spain and raised here in the USA. Viva Er Beti Manque Lopera Er Pichi
In latinamerica there are millions of italian descendants why dont you go to the italy forum and ask them if they consider themselves latinos? Actually they are more latinos than anyone. Real latinos=white people Only in Amerikkka do they call non whites "latinos"(pretty sad and serious mistake)
Why dont they call them americans instead? oh wait nevermind Those so called "latinos" are a latinos wanabe and give real latinos a bad image. The new "latin lovers"
What is your problem? Do you have something against people of a different race? Do us all a favor and leave this thread; you have contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion.
Being in the same boat as Pichi, I too consider myself white and when I am asked I say I am Spanish and American (note, not read spanish american). But for financial aid and such I qualify as hispanic (I can always confirm this by recognizing that the Iberian peninsula was known as Hispania by the Romans and such)
so i have a question, where does that leave portuguese people, i consider myself latino in the european version which i think is correct, compared to this make up thing the usa has created, dont get me wronmg i love all people, but how can we americans say that a indian person from ecudor or a black man from dominican republic are latino??? I just think our census should be based on race and not this made up hispanic thing,,,When im out shopping, people just come up to me and presume im hispanic(im portuguese/white) it seems like everything is being done to raise the hispanic numbers, lets face it there are many white 2/3 generation so called hispanic descent people that dont speak spanish,,at what point do these white people become white again lol,,,,,a native person from an arab country is considered caucasion, and a white person from argentina is not,,,whats up??
Ppl from Portugal are Portuguese and ppl from Spain are Spaniards. Now what colour/race thaty happen to be could be considered a sub heading. If I had to pick one, I would say Spaniards are Europeans Anyone from Latin America would be considered Latino and then sub-headings from there. Black latino, white latino or even mestico
official US Census asks you to choose your race (picking all that apply). then it asks a separate yes/no question about being hispanic. which means 1) that hispanic is not a race and 2) you can be a white, black, american indian, asian, etc. hispanic. as for hispanic vs latino, until fairly recently, ``spanish-speaking'' was the term used to describe what's now considered hispanic. as i understand things, latino comes from the 1960s movements and to many people still represents more of a ``brown power/pride'' statement.
I'm from Barcelona. It's obvious we consider ourselves European, since Spain is in Europe. Most of us consider ourselves Mediterranean, since most of our coast is Mediterranean. Personally, being from Catalonia, which is by the Mediterranean, I've found many similarities with places like Italy in terms of food, culture, weather, even the landscape, in some cases more than in other parts of Spain like Galicia (which has more Celtic roots) or the Basque Country (Basque language has nothin to do with any other that surrounds it; Spanish, Frech, etc.). Hispanic? That's a word we use, for example, when we talk about Spanish speaking people in the US. We don't call ourselves Hispanic, but Spansh. Latino? I guess it's short for anything from Latin America. I mean, it really should be related to anything the ancient Romans spread (they spoke latin), but we usually use it as opposed to anglo american. We cal latinos the immigrants from Equadr or Peru that came here, for example. Also, we can say a Spanish guy is a latin pop singer, but that's to differenciate it from anglo saxon pop, I assume. White? There's no need to consider ourselves that, cause so far we're all white. Maybe darker than an English or a Scandinavian, but white, like a French, Italian or Greek can be. Massive immigration is relatively new here, but maybe in the future we will start to label ourselves as white, asian, black, etc, I don't know. For what I've read, in the US you call Caucasian a white person? That's strange, cause Caucasian is for a very specific part of Europe, between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea, comprising parts of Russia, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbadjan, I don't quite understand that definition. So, to answer your question, we, the Spaniards, consider ourselves European, a lot of us Mediterranean (though some are not even aware of that), are white though never had thought about it, and indirectly responsible for million of Americans being called Latinos and Hispanic.
I fall in this category, too; but my dynamic is slightly different b/c my mother's Dominican and my family definitely has some color in them, although my dad is darker than my mom... 'cept my mom has a 'fro. I've always self-identified as "Latino" b/c I was always treated as such by whites. I see where you are going w/ this, but at least in the DR, he's just as Latino and Dominican as a Jackie Robinson was American. That doesn't negate the systematic crap that indigenous and blacks have to put up w/ in Latin America, just that you're conflating different terms regarding identity politics. As far as Portuguese, I'd say "Euro", just like Spaniards. US-based Portuguese, uffh... quite a complex issue that would necessitate a LOT of "that depends"... Continental Portuguese communities in Massachusetts or San Diego, for instance, I'd guess "Euro". Ppl from the Azores scattered throughout the US... I'd guess "Latino" b/c they're from a Portuguese "colony" to begin w/, so that would make them a bit more inclined to identify w/ "Latinos" b/c of the whole colonized thang. The important thing when it comes to the politics of the identity, it's up to the individual to say what he/she is. AND... by it's very nature, identity politics are quite fluid to begin w/ so there is room for ebb and flow. Actually, the question was about Americans of Spanish descent...
I always thought that the term, "Hispanic" was a term created by the Nixon administration to label a specific group in this country. It had nothing to do with race, it just assumed that all people who had a Spanish last name, ought to be grouped together. It didn't take into consideration that some of these people didn't even speak Spanish.
Oops, you're right. Sorry then. But honestly, from my perspective, I guess you can apply the same answer as an American of French, Portuguese or Italian descent. But hey, I'm not an American of Spanish descent, so what do I know?
Understand it all, except by and large, all these classifications are silly. For example, even in Spanish speaking countries in this hemisphere, they can't make up their mind who is Latino and who isn't. I was in the Dominican just a month ago, and a "Latino" awards show was on ......... and lo and behold Brazilians weren't included in any of the awards, apparently as not being Latino. It made me kind of chuckle. The bottom line is that the Spanish speaking countries are hand me downs of the Spanish culture and language(obviously) just as the US culture and language is a hand me down of English culture and language (by and large). Having said such, both countries were populated and run by White people at the time they began their conquest of the Americas. So when you have a Black guy, who is initially descended from the slave importation into the Americas, whether or not he is in the US, Brazil, the Dominican, Panama or Colombia now ......... he's Black. The subset ACTUALLY is that he may also be considered Latino, as that is only a function of his place of birth and not genetics. For example, my family line is descended from slaves, some that ended up in the Caribbean. Looking for work in the early 10's, many of these English speaking Black relatives of mine ended up in Cuba where they began raising their families in their new home to make ends meet. Both sides of the family lost touch with each other after you know what happened a few decades later and borders were closed. Are these lost relatives now no longer Black or is their Blackness only a subset of being a Latino? The fact that one speaks Spanish (as opposed to English, Portuguese or some French variant) means absolutely nothing as to his race. A White guy who speaks English is White. A White guy who speaks Spanish is still White. Anyway, in answer to the question, almost ever Spanish person I've ever known would look at ya silly if you asked them what race they were, because to those that I have known in the past, the obvious answer was White.
Spaniards are HISPANICS, whether they want to admit it or not, or consider themselves something else for that matter.... The Romans gave that direct word (Old days it was Hispania) to the inhabitants of the Iberian Peninsula, including their culture which is present-day Spain and Portugal
Of course we admit it the problem moron is that just like only the british can be called british only the Spaniards should be called hispanics but in dubyas land anyone who speaks Spanish is "hispanic" so because we are hispanics(the real ones) it doesnt mean we are non white like the people from america who speak our language.Why call from america "hispanics" and not use "british" for african americans? And dont tell me because they arent from the uk because the "hispanics" also from america arent from Spain. We dont want our identity taken away from us. Why dont you americans call southamericans "americans" because thats what they are.Oh but no u dont want to slander yourselves and call them "americans" so instead lets slander Spaniards and call mexicans etc "spanish people" "hispanics" or "latinos". You yanks deserve to be disliked by the whole world
