"Soy muy de lavar los trapos sucios de puertas para adentro" - The Real Madrid News Thread.

Talking about Castilla.

Jesé is going to Leverkusen, while we get Carvajal back again. The deal with Leverkusen is a good one, we send Jesé to Leverkusen like we did with Carvajal with a buyback clause, if he turns out good (Which he will) we'll just buy him back or maybe send another Canterano.

 

I didn't say that, i just told u lot what the diff. newspapers are saying, but i'd rather want the Canterano going abroad to Germany than to... Getafe.

 

Jese going abroad to somewhere like the EPL or Germany is better for him. I agree it's pointless sending players to clubs like Getafe who don't really have any ambition or players around that would improve Jese.

 

I'd rather want them to go out and play in another league than be benchwarmer. Getafé dont give two bits of shit about our youngsters going to them, most of the 'highly rated' youngsters that move to a mid table club in Spain.. Gets ********ed in the arse by the establishment and the coaches.

 

I don't see a problem with Jese going somewhere like Getafe. At this point in his development he needs minutes more than anything and he'll get that somewhere like Getafe. Add to that he seems to be more immature than a player like Carvajal keeping him close where there isn't a whole lot of culture shock to add to the lofty expecatations he would be shouldering makes sense.

 

So a club like Getafe will pull our players down and clubs like Valencia will posion them against us so the only option is Germany or England? Minus Carvajal our players haven't had a whole lotta luck in those places either. Staying in Spain at a club like Getafe (notice I have never said, "Getafe or bust...!") potentially makes just as much sense as sending them abroad.

Quite frankly I think the best option is to move Callejon on this summer and give Jese his place in the first team (he wouldn't get as many minutes but I think the structure and atmosphere would compensate for that) anyway but depending on who the coach is we might have to wait another season for that and so he would go out on loan. I don't see where going abroad is all that much better than staying in Spain and in the case of this player it might be better.

 

Leverkusen is also playing in the UCL, and if moving to Leverkusen is too big of a jump, then how the hell are they supposed to play for us?!

 

Because sometimes a "big jump" isn't necesarily the right move as far as a player's development is concerned. And to be honest I go back and forth on Jese because sometimes when you see him his brilliance is something to behold and other times he has you wanting to bust your own head open straight to the whilte meat A few weeks ago I thought Spurs might be a good spot for him on loan but now the tide has turned a bit and I can see the benefit in keeping him close. He is a mercurial thing not helped by his immaturity but the really talented ones usually are and I think being careful and considerate in how we bring him along will be beneficial for us in the longterm there is plenty of time of him to make a "big jump."

 

Where did you get this stuff? There are talks about sending Cheryshev to Leverkusen, not a single word about Jese.

 

English sources
http://www.soccernews.com/jese-rodriguez-on-leverkusen-radar/117661/
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-n...usen-close-arsenal-and-west-ham-target-195493
http://www.footballhq.co.uk/news/jese-rodriguez-on-leverkusen-radar#.UW6mqCt5yYQ

German Sources
http://www.t-online.de/sport/fussba...n-das-real-madrid-talent-jese-rodriguez-.html
http://www.express.de/bayer-04-leverkusen/als-schuerrle-ersatz-bayer-buhlt-um-real-youngster-jese-rodriguez--20-,3288,22355592.html
http://www.fussballeuropa.com/news/jese-rodriguez-zu-bayer-leverkusen-transfermarkt
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/rundumdenball/1304/tagesticker-1204-hannover-96-joerg-schamdtke-martin-kind-mirko-slomka-borussia-dortmund-juergen-klopp.html?textfield=%C3%9Cberschrift&textarea=Ich+vermute+dasselbe.&abo=1
http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/bundesliga/1304/News/bayer-04-leverkusen-an-jese-rodriguez-von-real-madrid-interessiert-potenzieller-nachfolger-fuer-andre-schuerrle.html
http://www.ksta.de/bayer-04/transfergeruecht-bayer-an-real-talent-jese-dran,15189374,22351816.html
http://www.ligainsider.de/jese-rodriguez_2559/bayer-04-interessiert-62954/

Spanish Sources
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/04/12/segunda/1365728966_800901.html
http://www.goal.com/es/news/21/fichajes/2013/04/12/3897349/jesé-rodríguez-podría-ser-un-objetivo-del-bayer-leverkusen
http://www.mercafutbol.com/el-bayer-leverkusen-quiere-pescar-de-nuevo-en-la-cantera-del-madrid/

Right.. Not a single word about Jesé

 

Wow! Look at all those "sources"

 

The Spanish First Division is an "instantly more demanding level" then he is on right now too though. At the end of the day it is a bit of a crapshoot because like the stock market past returns with other palyers is no guarantee of future sucess. But totally writing off a loan to team here in Spain is shortsighted imo.

And if the only idea is that you prepare a young player for the demanding professional life here at Real Madrid then keep him here and sell Callejon.

 

At least in Germany there wouldn't be the politics which could punish him with less playing time. If he isn't promoted to the first team, I know I'd rather see him go to Germany then turn to mediocrity/crap like the recent players we've sent to Spanish clubs.

 

+1

 

Just a thought but maybe the recent players we sent out to Spanish sides didn't work out becasue said sides "ruined" them but maybe because they weren't that good in the first place?

Jese, Carvajal and Morata are a huge step up in quality/talent/potential over some of those other players.

 

After Getafe's treatment of Sarabia we should not be sending them any more players.

Horrible career move.

 

Sarabia was a good talent.

I don't think anybody said these kids were world beating talents. It is just that as of late, they seem to suffer from the system instead of benefiting from it. To be honest you haven't provided any information that doesn't support this.

 

If they couldn't make it in Getafe, they were probably never good enough to play for us anyways.