Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Bubba1971, Sep 16, 2013.
Very, very sad news.
Rest in peace, guy.
Very sad indeed. Prayers for his family and friends!
I don't believe the assailant was a soccer fan. Just a random attack. Similar to another case 15 odd years ago when a Mariner fan was stabbed to death following a game. That is certainly a downside to having stadiums in downtown areas... The pioneer square area where this occurred attracts an awful lot of homeless people, and some fraction of them are mentally ill.
This really shouldn't be a topic for rivalries smack talk. It's not even MLS-related except insofar as it happened after a Sounders match.
Seattle's crime rate may be low compared to most metro areas of its size, but skid row is still skid row and SPD is half the size it should be for our population.
A tip for visitors to Seattle: avoid 3rd Ave where possible.
I posted it because I feel sympathy and empathy with fellow fans. This quote from the victims FB page really stings:
“Cheap seats, great match! Sounders v salt lake for first place. — with Kristin Ito at CenturyLink Field,” Wolff posted.
Really sucks that one of our own lost his life.
Yeah there's not likely any way this had anything to do with soccer, just two people caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Major condolences are in order.
Stupid things will be said and thought about this incident though, and probably best that it happened in a place like Seattle that welcomes soccer so openly. Almost anywhere else would probably have media that would spin it to somehow put a wrongful black eye on the league and its fans. I would have liked it better if the story had left out the fact that this guy was a Sounders fans, or at least taken that detail out of the headline. It just creates unnecessary side thoughts. This story should be about mental health and nothing else.
Soccer-related in that he was a fan doing what we all love best - going to a game and supporting his team...
Not soccer-related in that it was simply a case of wrong place at the wrong time. And really more another reminder that we still have a serious problem in this country not getting mental health services to many who desperately need them....
Condolences to his family and friends....
That's such sad news. Is that a pretty isolated intersection? Because I would have thought there would still be tons of people around @ 10:30 PM. You'd think someone else could have tried to intervene, altho I guess the attack could have taken place within a few seconds.
It doesn't really sound isolated (as in, no other people around.) There were probably quite a few people leaving the game still, but who's sure.
Sounds like the police showed up pretty quickly, otherwise there may have been two victims.
This story actually has two connections for me. First, obviously he was from the greater soccer community. Two, I went to Shoreline for a year in 1994.
Historical aside (to the obviously more important main topic) but Seattle's Skid Road is considered the (or one of the) original skid road that the name comes from.
True. They skidded the timber down it to the harbor, or wherever it was going.
Does anyone know exactly where this happened? I read that it was the intersection of 3rd and Jackson - was it north of the intersection? The south side of that intersection is on one of the main, crowded paths from the stadium to the closest pubilc transit center after matches.
There probably were not tons of people around when they got attacked. The attack occurred about an hour and a half after the game ended, so the couple probably hit a local watering hole for some postgame celebration and were heading to the nearby lightrail station or their parked car when the attack occurred.
Also, the corner they were attacked on is relatively isolated for a downtown location. There is a small "park" that the assailant was setting up for the night, but really nothing else. I've been in that area at that time of night and I wouldn't be surprised if they were the only people within a block or so that were on foot. There probably was a few cars driving by though.
Hachiko's original post has been removed, as well as any others that even remotely covered it or referenced it. If you had anything relevant in a deleted post, feel free to re-post those parts.
I'm only saying this once: No rivalries, no speculation, and no poking whatever bear you feel like poking. If you think for a moment it might be inappropriate to post, let me help you out -- IT IS. Zero tolerance on this.
Don't piss me off -- I'm not messing around here.
I read the 2nd ave extension at 3rd and Jackson. which would mean near the entrance to the Sounder station if the north side of Jackson, or near that funky triangle that looks down onto the tracks if the south side, or the Triangle between the 2nd ave extension and 3rd ave opposite the Police Museum and Salumi. I agree with Yoshou at that time traffic control at 4th and Jackson would have been gone and the area in question would have cleared very quickly after 10pm.
@TrickHog, my father in-law is one of the architects of Washington's Mental Health parity laws. It is always sad when mental health is put in a negative spotlight in cases like this. The assailant's mental health may or not have played a role in the attack but the early sloppy reporting just mentioned a history of mental illness so the assumptions go towards him being violent or crazy with no consideration for what particular disorder existed.
And obviously condolences to the friends and families involved. It is always tragic to hear when someone passes in their prime, especially under these conditions.
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