Soul wave game fight and fan attack

Discussion in 'Pro Indoor Soccer' started by cardshopmd, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What anyone at the game who can tell us what took place after the 3 Soul players left the floor and went after a Fan from what i have seen and read on facebook players had spit on the fan and the fan ran on to floor to get Tozer to help and thats when security stepped in I would love to know what took place after the camera got turned off
     
  2. GoStorm

    GoStorm Member

    Oct 24, 2008
    only 2 players
     
  3. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    at the end of the game the feed was still going and its shows 3 players left the floor . potos on facebook show the fan ran on the floor and was protected by hames and tozer before security removed him
     
  4. FireFanKeith

    FireFanKeith Member

    Mar 6, 2000
    chicago,il usa
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Read the Soul-Wave thread for more info. The fans started what they could not finish.
     
  5. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    A couple of fans deciding to take things too far during the game. Three or four Milwaukee fans were standing in the first row right where the glass ends and the extreme seats begin. They were giving crap to the Chicago players all game. Everyone has a right to enjoy themselves at a sporting event, but sitting in the first row without glass does not give anyone the right to say and do as they please. If you have an issue with someone, be man enough and hold the conversation to their face after the game away from the stadium. Perhaps over a beer. Security came down and warned the fans regarding their behavior. I really think that it was only one guy who was the real jerk. He did sit and watch the game silently for a couple of minutes. After the Wave had won, this fan continued with the taunts and name calling. Again, if you are so upset with someone, invite that player to meet in a neutral place like the parking lot behind the stadium. They could resolve their differences there like real men. But no, the taints continued. It was at that point that Chicago’s Tijani Ayegbusi decided to escort this fan back to Milwaukee. The Milwaukee fan refused the escort and high-tailed it out of there! Last seen, he was still running on I-90 just passed Kenosha.



    Security was pretty pissed at these fans after the game. One woman claimed that she was spit on several times by a Chicago player. Can’t say that I saw that. Again, if someone is standing a couple of feet away from you and you are yelling and screaming at them, expect a response. Especially if you already have been warned by security that you are crossing the line. Front row seats are great, but act like an adult if you sit there.
     
  6. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  7. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That is what one of the women told security as well. Security were not buying it. Like I said, I did not see Chile spit on anyone either. The Milwaukee fan that jumped on the field really had nothing to do with the situation. It was one guy in a Wave jersey who was the real jerk and his sister or girlfriend who said that she was spit on by Chile. If that was her boyfriend that hightailed it out of there, she was really pissed at him after the game. She was taking all the crap from security while he was running for cover. Overheard her phone conversation with him while leaving the stadium and she was not happy!
     
  8. cardshopmd

    cardshopmd Member

    Sep 9, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Im sorry to argue but the photos show it the same person , now we could be talking about 2 different people as well .I did not see it I wish some one had a vido of the entire thing so we could see the real story
     
  9. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I am talking about the Wave fan that was chased by Ayegbusi out of the stadium. I saw the end result in the concourse. Did not see the fan on the field. Sitting a few rows away, it seems like one Milwaukee fan was the cause of the after game incident (and during game disturbances). Overall, very classless performance by a couple of Milwaukee fans and players. They obviously were the better team. Show some class!
     
  10. FifaMan328

    FifaMan328 Member

    Dec 5, 2008
    First, you had 3-4 Wave fans in the front row. They stood the entire time and quite sure they could have said anything they wanted to the Soul players
    (Obviously they were not blocking anybody's view behind them)

    But- I blame the idiot Security guards at the Sears Center. If these fans were being a distraction or crossing the line in any way throughout the game, they should have been told to sit down, cheer but nothing more

    Maybe they held there own and showed class until the last few of the 4th quarter.. and then decided to act like a**holes

    As far as Ian Bennett... I would have decked his ass myself if I was playing. That was a total classless act on his part. Degand giving him a "gentle" shove was too kind.
     
  11. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Security was with them for over 10 minutes in the 4th quarter. Their only mistake was not kicking them out at that time instead of trusting them that they would control themselves. Continuing to taunt players that are right next to you after the game is over is pretty stupid, particularly when you are the visiting fans. Not the brightest idea.
     
  12. FifaMan328

    FifaMan328 Member

    Dec 5, 2008
    Well then I apologize to Chicago's finest security personnel

    Someone mentioned Bennett won't be dancing in Baltimore Sat?

    Of course NOT- every player respects BALTIMORE because they want to play here... especially when they know their team may not be around the following year
     
  13. Harmony1

    Harmony1 New Member

    Jan 16, 2013
    It is ridiculous to defend a player for going after a fan. The fan started something they couldn't finish? What happened to leaving it on the field?

    I was at the game. The fans involved were being obnoxious. I am a Wave season ticket holder and have never seen them at a game. I sat by the Wave staff and they had no idea who they were either. I was embarassed to be cheering for the same team as them. But, spitting on a fan (which did happen) and running after a fan (also happened)? No excuses.
     
  14. Harmony1

    Harmony1 New Member

    Jan 16, 2013
    I agree--they should have been thrown out. But, Chile responded in typical Chile fashion by escalating it.
     
  15. Sting111

    Sting111 Member+

    Jan 17, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The majority of the Wave fans were totally cool. They really brought a great atmosphere to the game. I didn't see the spitting and if people saw it, it should have immediatly been brought to someone's attention. I have been to many Wave gamesin Milwaukee over the years and have had nothing but positive experiences. That is why yesterdays performance was so disturbing.
     
  16. traremark

    traremark Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    I've been reading both threads since last night and as a former player and at least on this forum (a fan), I encourage all posters to exercise common sense.

    Under no circumstance should a player ever go into the stands to confront a fan. NEVER! It doesn't matter what was said, that is for security to handle. In the worst situation, it can become a liability issue for the player, team and league. It can also lead to arrests. The Pacer/Piston fans episode is a prime example of that. While this did not escalate to anywhere near that magnitude, depending on the fan or fans being confronted it could have. This was a bad decision by a player(s) that should not result in a lifetime suspension, but should address all the issues involved including security, fans, seating, beverage sales and other factors that while may not have been the case or cause last night can contribute to these situations. If an investigation determines the fans involved behavior crossed the acceptable line as was the case in Detroit, that fan should be banned from all MISL games. Most importantly however is all players must understand that under no circumstances can a player ever enter the stands for confrontation with a fan or fans.
     
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  17. mjames1229

    mjames1229 Member

    Sep 26, 2006
    West Allis, WI
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watching the On Demand (finally, a good use for this service)...

    From 2:03:00 for a couple of minutes, each time the ball is played into that side of the field, you can clearly see security (in a red windbreaker) talking to those fans for at least five minutes. Security starts walking away at 2:07:40)

    (At 2:04:30ish you can see the Chicago goal scored while the ref was fixing the MISL logo. It looked more blatant in person, but he did have it dropped before the free kick was taken.)

    At 2:14:35 is where Fred Degand flies across the field and levels Ian Bennett. The camera did not really show what Bennett was doing.
     
  18. mjames1229

    mjames1229 Member

    Sep 26, 2006
    West Allis, WI
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At 2:21:55, Farias (waiting for play to resume) is jawing with the fan, and possibly spit towards him (can't really tell) but if he did spit, it landed on the field. No way it made the stands. And within five second, he was taking a free kick.

    At 2:27:03 (with about seven seconds left in the game), the fan is heading up the stairs, away from his seat. HE WAS ALREADY ON HIS WAY OUT!

    At 2:27:13, the horn sounds, Ayegbusi takes off his jersey and makes a beeline over the boards and in the stands. 10 seconds after the fan has already headed up.

    At 2:27:24, Carlos Munoz dashes across the field and heads into the stands, too.

    At 2:27:42, the fan has made it onto the "crappy" logo and into the arms of Joe Hammes.
     
  19. jose34

    jose34 New Member

    Feb 19, 2013
    Club:
    3 de Febrero
    As i stated before in another thread i was a section over with my buddy and we heard them all game and nothing racial was said just saying they suck. They were loud but the actions from the soul were unacceptable and now they try and say racial slurs were said to justify there actions is even worse! Reason ushers were over by them was the refs reported chile for spitting as they saw it happen and ushers wanted more details. Im a soul fan and while they were loud theres no reason at all that any player should go into the stands. Ashamed to be a soul fan
     
  20. skipper60601

    skipper60601 Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know whether there were racial/ethnic slurs or not, but I think the Soul players going into the stands was unacceptable in any event. Still, I don't see how you could be so certain that the fan(s) in question didn't utter any slurs. You could have been away from your seat or not paying attention to the fan(s). Or the fan(s) might not have uttered the slurs very loud if they were directed at a nearby Soul player or players. Also if the refs saw Farias spitting at fans, why didn't they card him or eject him?

    I'm going to wait and see what else turns up before I make any judgments other than the ones I've stated.
     
  21. GoStorm

    GoStorm Member

    Oct 24, 2008
    Ya the Refs would have taken action not alerted security
     
  22. traremark

    traremark Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Jose, what row were you in?
     
  23. FireFanKeith

    FireFanKeith Member

    Mar 6, 2000
    chicago,il usa
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like I said in the other thread...this guy is bogus. He just joined today. He probably is the guy who was saying the racial slurs.
     
  24. jose34

    jose34 New Member

    Feb 19, 2013
    Club:
    3 de Febrero
    Think what you will. The only thing that is bogus is saying people are saying racial slurs to justify being an idiot and going in the stands. And im going off of what i heard from the ushers. Ill not being attending anymore after yesterday.
     
  25. cosmokramer

    cosmokramer New Member

    Feb 7, 2013
    On behalf of my corporation, Kramerica Industries, Inc., I've come up with a great new idea for an annual event at the Sears Center. You've heard of the Running of the Bulls at Pamplona, Spain. From now on we can have the Running of the Soul at the Sears Center. It starts with all the participants getting free Milwaukee Wave shirts at the door. Everyone then takes a set in the arena and the Chicago Soul players all gather at the middle of the field. The scoreboard plays a tape of Ian Bennett doing the macarena. When the tape ends, the participants get out of their seats and run to the exits as fast as possible to get away from the enraged Soul players who are running after them. What a great idea!

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