SKC vs FCD 3/15 7:30pm CST p/i/p [R]

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  1. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. KC96

    KC96 Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Normally when you recover the ball deep in your Defensive side and try and take the ball upfield in the face of opposition pressure, the "safe" play is to go up the sides. That way if there is a turnover, it is off to the side where it is easier to defend than a top of the box turnover. (I'm not talking Offensive 1/3rd, I'm talking Defensive 1/3rd)

    FCD starting applying pressure on the side passes in our Defensive end, and SKC starting getting "fancy" with trying to move the ball up the middle on our defensive third with FCD players within a few feet of the passer/recipient. I saw some nice cutback moves by Collin, Besler, Uri with good passes up the middle to the attacking third. Looks GREAT when you pull it off. But I myself cringe every time I see it because I know what will happen if we fail.

    Because many of these passes "barely" were made/arrived in time - I guess if you were an optimist you can call that "calm on the ball", or "the result (a successful pass) is all that matters". But a few of them were bobbled/recovered, etc. which means it was still dangerous - and these bobbles/near misses only gave confidence to FCD that they "would" get that game changing turnover, and also telegraphed to FCD on a tactical level where our passes were going.

    Point is, unless you are 100% successful on every one of these, sooner or later you "will" turn one over near the top of the box, and have to scramble and or risk a foul (which we get called and burned on seemingly every time - I can think of 6 times this exact thing happened in the last year to cost us a result)

    I'm not saying to never pass it up the middle in our defensive 1/3rd in the midst of pressure, it's great we have the confidence/mindset to do it - but please mix it up some more.

    Near the end SKC was like "ok FCD, you make the defensive 1/3rd sideline pass slightly challenging, I'm going up the middle. Ha Ha. Yup, Up the middle again. that worked. Up the middle again, ha ha. Up the middle.... OOOPS, scramble, tackle. FOUL on us near the top of box? What?"
     
  3. KC96

    KC96 Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    More disturbing stat:

    Yesterday's 90th minute giveback made it 5 goals allowed after the 88th minute in the last 4 games vs FCD.

    It's just as bad as against Seattle.

    Better fix this problem before we get realigned West next year and have 4 more games against both teams. We haven't beaten or tied Portland since 2011 either....
     
  4. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm not so sure that's true. Dom, Peterson, Sapong, sure. But Zusi or Bieler? Saad? These guys aren't really the killer athletes, though they've all put in solid efforts to improve that part of their game.
     
  6. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    looking back, i'm glad i didn't know before the game that abbey okulaja was going to be the center ref. that knowledge may have sent my blood pressure spiking.
     
  7. dgb09

    dgb09 Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    Overland Park, KS
    In October, when we may be lamenting a few points difference between supporters shield or postseason seed/MLS Cup at home, let's remember that we dropped 3 points in the first couple of weeks by playing a weakened squad in these league games to try to advance in CCL. Here's hoping for a result on Wednesday so it's worth it.
     
  8. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Win the CCL
    Make the playoffs

    That's all we need. Well, in addition to making a good playoff run, but as far as the regular season goes, those are the two really important things. Though an Open Cup run would be fun too.
     
  9. lukeD

    lukeD Member+

    Jul 7, 2011
    Olathe
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right, I should have conditioned that statement. But on nights like last night, when we run out Zizzo, Dom, and CJ/JP, there's almost no chance our forwards score.
     
  10. SombraAla

    SombraAla Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Waldo (Kansas City)
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    445589828894089217 is not a valid tweet id
     
  11. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i didn't get into the stadium until well after kickoff, but i heard that south stand made a mess of another tifo. anyone have any pics/links of the pregame displays?
     
  12. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    They deef'd.
     
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  13. ChocolateCandy

    ChocolateCandy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jul 23, 2009
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    United States
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  14. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am a South Stand STM and wish that they would quit doing tifo altogether. Frankly, I would rather just watch the players come onto the field. If I had any interest in that kind of stuff, or in standing the whole time for non-playoff games, I would be in the Members Stand.

    Here endeth the grumpy old man's rant.
     
  15. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Actually, odds are good the tifo won't make it down to where you are.

    Naw, I love the South Stand and all the efforts they're making to show spirit over there. But deef'd has to be the funniest tifo I've ever run across.
     
  16. aletheist

    aletheist Member+

    Nov 17, 2010
    Olathe, Kansas, USA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I usually sit in about the 12th row, right behind the goal, and I usually get whacked in the head when the tifo goes down, because I forget that it is coming. If only I knew in advance which section would be missing each time ...
    Philadelphia has DOOP, now we have DEEF'D.
     
  17. ji_shuheng

    ji_shuheng Member+

    Mar 26, 2003
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    velour thirds?
     
  18. Ihateusernames

    May 16, 2007
    Merriam, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I don't pay enough attention to tifo stuff but what else was messed up? I've sat in the MS and seen a fair share messed up. Those were mostly due to someone forgetting to untie a portion before passing it down.
     
  19. kcscsupporter

    kcscsupporter Member+

    Apr 17, 2002
    D17
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    oh my. that's hilarious.
     
  20. MuddyPitch

    MuddyPitch Member

    Jun 14, 2008
    Liberty
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They need to have a 16-part tifo that looks like a scrambled Boggle board and another typical South Stand screw up. Then while everyone is laughing, flip the pieces to spell something correctly for once.

    They could really make continued tifo incompetence an endearing part of the South Stand culture.
     
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  21. KC96

    KC96 Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Love this idea, especially your last sentence. Unfortunately, I don't place a high degree of confidence right now that they could pull it off. LOL. But I'd like to see them try and hope they can.

    If they did pull it off, everything you say would be true - especially about turning a "failure" into a "new part of our culture".

    What I'm truly happy of though, is that SKC fans are laughing about it (here at BS, and at least the ones around me in my non-South Stand section), instead of beating up on their fellow fans. Love that.
     
  22. KC96

    KC96 Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm always thankful we don't have BIMBO in large font across our jersey/player's chests like PHI does. :)
     
  23. ji_shuheng

    ji_shuheng Member+

    Mar 26, 2003
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    they deef'd up. it happens.

    *ducks*
     
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  24. YilmazOrhan

    YilmazOrhan Well Brian, I hit it first time...

    Jun 18, 2006
    Suburbia, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Love it!

    Of course, the real problem is that the South Stand stalwarts all sit on one side of the goal, while the other side can be just about anyone from game to game. If they want to keep doing elaborate tifos, I'm not sure how they overcome that.
     
  25. MuddyPitch

    MuddyPitch Member

    Jun 14, 2008
    Liberty
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are the screwups due to the tifo not unrolling right, or is it just the new people getting all ticked off and not passing down the tifo? It almost looks like people are like "get this crap outta my face" and don't get what they're supposed to do. In which case, maybe some printed fortune cookie sized instructions would help.

    Although that wouldn't help someone swapping the F and the E section when the whole thing starts.
     

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