Sheep Draft 3.5 - Main Thread

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by lanman, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gettin' anxious, people.
     
  2. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Just Salama left.
     
  3. AudereEstFacere

    Aug 11, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is my nightmare.
     
  4. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Votes are in. Give me a couple of hours and I will have the results up.
     
  5. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Results

    12 points for 1st, 11 for 2nd etc.
    I've not included a vote for Holy__Joe as it has no impact on the overall standings.
    Ties are decided by counting most number of 1st place votes, then most 2nd place if required and so on.

    1st cr7torossi & JamesA - 101 points
    2nd Stud83 - 101 points
    3rd nicephoras & schwuppe - 93 points
    4th Twenty26Six - 89 points
    5th thebigman & PDG1978 - 87 points
    6th Salama - 75 points
    7th soccernutter - 75 points
    8th benni... & SyedZada - 74 points
    9th Peru FC - 70 points
    10th Excape Goat - 70 points
    11th AudereEstFacere - 46 points
    12th El-CapitanoR7 - 32 points
    13th Holy__Joe -23 points

    1st place votes

    cr7torossi & JamesA - 3
    Twenty26Six - 2
    Salama- 2
    Peru FC- 2
    nicephoras & schwuppe - 1
    soccernutter - 1
    thebigman & PDG1978 - 1

    Last place votes

    Holy__Joe - 7
    AudereEstFacere - 2
    El-CapitanoR7 - 2
    Peru FC- 1

    Highest placed ranking

    cr7torossi & JamesA - 1
    Stud83 - 2
    nicephoras & schwuppe - 1
    Twenty26Six - 1
    thebigman & PDG1978 - 1
    Salama - 1
    soccernutter - 1
    benni... & SyedZada - 3
    Peru FC - 1
    Excape Goat - 2
    AudereEstFacere - 2
    El-CapitanoR7 - 7
    Holy__Joe - 9

    Lowest placed ranking

    cr7torossi & JamesA - 8
    Stud83 - 7
    nicephoras & schwuppe - 9
    Twenty26Six - 10
    thebigman & PDG1978 - 11
    Salama - 11
    soccernutter - 11
    benni... & SyedZada - 9
    Peru FC - 12
    Excape Goat - 11
    AudereEstFacere - 12
    El-CapitanoR7 - 12
    Holy__Joe - 12

    Number of different positions in rankings

    cr7torossi & JamesA - 7
    Stud83 - 4
    nicephoras & schwuppe - 7
    Twenty26Six - 7
    thebigman & PDG1978 - 7
    Salama - 9
    soccernutter - 9
    benni... & SyedZada - 6
    Peru FC - 6
    Excape Goat - 7
    AudereEstFacere - 8
    El-CapitanoR7 - 6
    Holy__Joe -3

    Most common rankings

    Holy__Joe - 7 times 12th
    Stud83 - 6 times 3rd
    thebigman & PDG1978 - 4 times 4th
    Holy__Joe - 4 times 10th
    No others over 3 times.

    Number of different teams per ranking

    1st - 7
    2nd - 9
    3rd - 5
    4th - 7
    5th - 6
    6th - 9
    7th - 8
    8th - 9
    9th - 8
    10th - 7
    11th - 7
    12th - 4
     
  6. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002
    Congratulations ot cr7torossi and JamesA. Pretty close in the end for the top spot.
    Thanks to everyone for taking part - if there is the demand there'll be another All Time Sheep Draft in the new year and another Current Player Sheep Draft later on.
     
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  7. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Congrats to cr7torossi and JamesA, I was one of the people who voted you as #1. If I didn't put your first, I would've won the whole thing without having a single first place vote :D

    Here's my final list:

    1. cr7torossi
    2. thebigman
    3. nicephoras
    4. Twenty26Six
    5. benni
    6. Salama
    7. Perú FC
    8. Excape Goat
    9. AudereEstFacere
    10. soccernutter
    11. El-CapitanoR7
    12. Holy_Joe
     
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  8. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    The joint vote from me and thebigman was as follows (with my ranking in brackets):
    1) Twenty26Six (2)
    2) Soccernutter (6)
    3) Stud83 (4)
    4) Syed&benni (3)
    5) Nicephoras&schwuppe (7)
    6) cr7torossi&JamesA (5)
    7) Peru FC (1)
    8) Salama (11)
    9) Excape Goat (8)
    10) Holy Joe (10)
    11) El-Capitano R9 (9)
    12) AudereEstFacere (12)

    thebigman marked the teams out of 10 and PM'd me, and then I allocated points according to both our orders giving the team thebigman placed higher the higher joint placing if there was a tie. I'll let him go into more detail if he likes but his marks out of 10 ranged from 7.75 to his top ranked team (Twenty26Six - closely followed by others around that mark) down to 6 out of 10.

    I definately had it very close at the top and bottom, and maybe even moreso in the middle (the order between them - there were a few that I felt would be in the middle somewhere). We both gave Holy Joe the benefit of the doubt and judged his team on lanman's chosen XI and a positive interpretation of how it would work I think - thebigman gave him 7/10 which he also gave to Excape Goat while I would have had him about tied with El-Capitano's team so we did count his team as below those in our seperate rankings before making the joint one.

    Congratulations cr7torossi and JamesA, and unlucky Stud83 that's about as close as you can get to winning it without doing!

    Thought there may be quite a few different choices for the top teams, as it turned out indeed- all the teams are within the same ballpark I think.
     
  9. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congrats to cr7torossi & JamesA, and tough luck to Stud - it like losing the championship on goals scored.

    Had fun, even though I could not put much time into it as I wanted. Looking forward to the all time draft if one happens.
     
  10. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Congrats cr7torossi and JamesA. ;)
     
  11. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    "Congrats guys. My team is about where I expected give or take. Before the last round, I was more confident.

    Rossi's core was just too good.
    ?
    Anyone want to give thoughts on my team?

    El Capitano. You had a good system, just some average players.
     
  12. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was hoping to get a first place vote and a spot in the top 4, so I am happy how it played out.

    Congrats to rossi/james for winning. I had them first in my rankings.


    Thanks to PDG/Big for making me their #1. If I had to guess who gave me my other #1, I would say Peru. He always seems to grade me well.

    This draft was very fun, and the degree of difficulty was higher than usual - which made it even more interesting.
     
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  13. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Congrats to cr7torossi & JamesA.

    I knew that I did not have a chance to win it and I also knew that I was not the bottom team. So I am satisfied with my performance.
     
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  14. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I rated your team higher than the final order. You were my 4th. I might have overrated your team because you consisted of a few of my favorite players, namely, Valero, Ozil, Di Maria and Reus. The forward definitely worked. In a previous post, I mentioned about Isco on your team. I realized my mistake during the final judging.
     
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  15. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point, you are one of the ones I can actually explain why...

    I like what you did with your tactics. It was fairly consistent in formation with a rotation of players. As I did with all teams, I thought about how that would do compared to my team, and I could see your team getting through my center 3 (De Jong, Vertonghen, Ramos). Thusly, I put you at 3rd.
     
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  16. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    Things I liked about your team:

    -Solid midfield
    -Good formation and write-up, covered everything very well.

    Didn't like:

    -Koscielny with De Gea behind is not a very consistent
    -You dropped Isco from the team, drafted Reus at the end and put Isla in the center of the midfield? Didn't make sense with your formation. You needed a CM/DM there with the last pick to play next to Valero. Isla then would've gone to the right, Jallet dropped and Ozil/Di Maria/Isco is very solid up front.
     
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  17. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Thanks guys for your feed back.

    I dont know if you can tell by the blocks and picks in the last round, but you, stud and Rossi both thwarted me in my attempts to get a midfielder. Vidal was just a throw away pick/block, but I wanted Schweini....

    If I couldnt get a holding midfielder to my expectation, I was going to go all out attack like last draft.

    In the end, I was probably too cautious in the early rounds.
     
  18. El-CapitanoR7

    El-CapitanoR7 Member

    Oct 30, 2008
    La la land
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I honestly thought Peru was going to be # 1. I really thought his team " made sense" more than any other team, including mine.

    I must admit that I am slightly disappointed by the rating I got in the draft, I really thought my team was very difficult to play against, and had a good balance, but at the end it's simply a matter of opinion. Congrats to the winners, I had a lot of fun.:thumbsup:
     
  19. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    Good to know it. ;)
     
  20. Perú FC

    Perú FC Member+

    Nov 16, 2007
    Lima, Perú
    I voted #1 to thebigman & PDG1978 and #8 to the winners cr7torossi & JamesA.
     
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  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    just want to say thanks to whom ever voted me as the top. I was hoping for a top 4 and a trip to the CL, but I just barely made the Other Cup.
     
  22. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    alright everyone. out with your rankings. :D
     
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  23. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    Also, Thanks Lanman. If you're not busy, can you give your opinion on the draft and the teams in general?
     
  24. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, I meant to ask for this as well.

    Great overlord and benevolent dictator of Sheep Draft 3.5, humbly provide us with your wise words.
     
  25. lanman

    lanman BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 30, 2002

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