Seleção 2013 - General discussion [R]

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  1. NotreDameFlamengo

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    Can anyone honestly say there is a goleiro that sticks out above the others? To me it seems there's more than a handful of possible names, but no one that is head and shoulders above the rest.


  2. Catracho_Azul

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    Cavalieri >>>>> JC

    Sometimes I wonder where the sense in it all has gone.. smh
  3. NotreDameFlamengo

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    This paper tiger changes monthly for those on here. Someone starts hyping up a goleiro, then everybody talks about the travesty of why he's not getting called up, and overexxagerating with their >>>>. Then the name changes in another month or so.

    I have no idea who the best goalie is at the moment, what I do know is that no one is sticking out that far above the rest.
  4. Catracho_Azul

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    So you're telling me Cavalieri didn't have a stellar Championship campaign with Flu??

    cmon man. Cavalieri has been the best Brazilian goalie this past year. This guy's inclusion as the starting #1 has been long overdue since his time at Palmeiras. JC is past it. notice QPR's position in the tables.

    And if you wanna talk about Goalies who thrive and looked good under teams with a poor defense.. lets point out Diego's game against Argentina in the second leg of Copa Rocca..


  5. NotreDameFlamengo

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    What does QPRs position in the table have to do with anything? Your saying if cavaleiri was the goleiro there they wouldn't suck balls and still be at the bottom of the table?
  6. Lucas Gomes

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    Diego Cavalieri is unreliable to be in the starting lineup.

    We have many goalkeepers OK, but no indisputable for the lead role.

    My favorite is Diego Alves.
  7. Catracho_Azul

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    I'm saying a team who gets shot at constantly, JC is bound to look good. If you're on a bad team and your a has been good GK.. your ratio of making a big save with all the shots that are coming your way as in the case of QPR.. is always going to look good.
  8. NotreDameFlamengo

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    Fair point, I'll give ya that. But the opposite can be said for a goalie on a team with with a terrific defense, a la flu.
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  9. Denilson70

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    That is a fair point. If we are leaving the past (JC) behind then Diego Alves has not done a lot wrong so perhaps deserves to keep the shirt.
  10. Denilson70

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    I goalkeeper in a poor team could be in action lot - and concede 10! He pulled 2 brilliant saves today (yesterday here)
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    Again fair, but we are here to talk about the candidates and that is what we are doing. I agree there is bit of 'hometown' here i.e. he plays for my club so play him, but let us share views.
  12. Denilson70

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    ........and it easy to trumpet players who play for the champions: Fred has looked ordinary in a Brazil shirt whereas someone like Wellington Nem has been unlucky not to play more/go to the Olympics on what little I have seen of him. Fred looks a little lacking in pace/mobility and has probably regressed since he left Lyons.
  13. Lucas Gomes

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    I think Ronaldinho returns to Brazil NT

    I've always been opposed to his back, but Dinho deserves another chance: it was the best midfielder Brasileirão 2012.

    Felipao Also likes him and likes to have a good player on FKs and experienced to lead the group.

    Fred is another who must return to the group. Scolari likes a player area, maker of goals and he was the top scorer in the Brasileirão.

    I am eager to know if Scolari convene players like Fernandinho, Willian, Luiz Gustavo, Filipe Luis and others speculated playing in Europe and not so famous. Some say that Scolari makes no idea who they are haha ;)
  14. PapaDoc23

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    No Dinho. He is past his prime. Yeah I have watched the Mineiro games but when Mano first put him he slowed down the midfield. He looked old and slow. Fred was horrible in the Copa America two years ago. Scolari's style has always been defensive. that is why I think he will bring back the 3-5-2 again.
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    Right now i would rank them

    1. Rafael Cabral
    2. Cassio
    3. Victor
    4. Cavallieri

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  16. leonidas

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    On another note, I'm pretty pleased with the new Brazil jersey that leaked. Definitely the best Nike jersey that they've produced for us since the 2006 WC one.

    Now, hopefully they can build on this year's and make one at least as good for the World Cup.
  17. Mengão86

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    Helton committed yet another gaffe yesterday vs Benfica.
  18. Lucas Gomes

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    The jersey is beautiful. The best of recent years.
    However, 98 is insuperable!

    Helton is a great goalkeeper, but his time for Brazil NT has passed...
  19. Denilson70

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    Tá chegando a hora dos jogos verdadeiros, ou vai ou racha. Se eles puderem aprender a jogar juntos, ainda tá indeterminado. Vai ser interesante.
  23. NotreDameFlamengo

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    Who steps in for T Silva to pair with David Luiz? I can't wait until Scolari's first call-up to see how much he shakes things up.
  24. Denilson70

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    ........ah, but who says David Luiz will be called. No guarantees........
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