Seleção 2011 - General discussion and news [R]

Here's the new thread for general selection about the Seleção. For those looking to access the older thread: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1619878

Let's try keeping all discussion related to the upcoming Copa América in its own thread, which can be found: http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1750658

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CBF confirma amistosos contra Espanha e Itália para o final do ano.

Antes, o Brasil ainda enfrenta duas vezes a Argentina e a Alemanha, em Sttutgart

A CBF confirmou nesta terça-feira que a Seleção Brasileira vai enfrentar, ainda este ano, a Itália e a Espanha, em amistosos na Europa. Os jogos ainda não tem data marcada, devem devem acontecer nas duas últimas datas previstas no calendário da Fifa. Uma partida seria em outubro, no dia 7 ou 11, e outra em novembro, dia 11 ou 15.

Além de enfrentar os dois últimos campeões do mundo, a equipe de Mano Menezes encara a Alemanha, no dia 10 de agosto, em Sttutgart, e duas vezes a Argentina, pelo Superclássico das Américas, em setembro. O primeiro jogo será disputado no dia 14 de setembro, em Buenos Aires, no estádio do River Plate, na Argentina, e o segundo acontecerá no dia 28 do mesmo mês, em território brasileiro, em local ainda não confirmado.

Nos jogos contra a Argentina, porém, só vão ser utilizados jogadores que atuam em clubes dos dois países. Estrelas internacionais como o goleiro Julio César, Alexandre Pato, Messi e Tevez não vão ser chamados para os dois duelos. A Seleção Brasileira ainda tem uma data no calendário da Fifa para utilizar nos dias 2 e 6 de setembro. Não há adversário confirmado ainda.

Desde que Mano Menezes assumiu a Seleção após a Copa de 2010, o Brasil passou a fazer amistosos com países da primeira linha do futebol mundial, o que não acontecia antes. A equipe canarinha já enfrentou a Argentina (derrota por 1 a 0), a França (outro tropeço por 1 a 0) e a Holanda, vice campeã mundial (empate por 0 a 0). O Brasil ainda enfrentou Estados Unidos, Irã, Ucrânia, Escócia e Romênia.

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http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/selecao-brasileira/noticia/2011/07/selecao-pega-dois-ultimos-campeoes-do-mundo-em-amistosos-na-europa.html

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What has given you enough to say Adriano has been bad? He wasn't poor at Barcelona this season and he has hardly had a chance under Mano.

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We don't need a craque at LB like Roberto Carlos, Leandro, or even a Branco, etc. That's where our mentality is all wrong because we have been spoiled.

What are the options other than Adriano? Marcelo has had a falling out with Mano. I haven't heard much of Filipe Luis since his move to Atletico. Michel Bastos wasn't that great this season with Lyon. Adriano is a solid option and is a better all around player than André Santos.

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Fabio may eventually become an option for us down the road, but I still have my questions about him. I've been more impressed with Rafael thus far, who has seen more playing time.

Danilo from Santos is a rightback, so he wouldn't solve our LB problems. Santos' LBs are Leo and Alex Sandro.

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I know Rafael is a RB, but he is a lot more tested than Fabio. I believe both of them have been played at both fullback positions in some games as well (correct me if I am wrong, benni).

As far as tonight, we are going to do you a favor; Carpegiani will be shown the door after tonight.

Flamengo was going after Diogo at the start of the year, but SPFC asked for too much. I believe he ended up going to Goias on loan.

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IMO, our valid options for 2014 -- based on form, future potential, etc

Goalies:

Centerbacks:

Right-backs:

Left-backs:

Defensive Midfielders (primeiro volante):

"Box-to-box" midfielders (segundo/terceiro homem):

Playmakers

Attacking Midfielders/Wingers/Second strikers:

Strikers (#9s):

I may have forgotten some players. I also may have left some questionable ones out. Of course, there may be someone that appears between now and 2014 that no one really saw developing.

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Mano had called Kaká for the Copa America, but he wanted more rest and time with Real Madrid. I would think he would get a call if he is ready.

Diego has already been discussed a bit here. His situation is different from Kaka's. He needs to find a club and play well to merit a call.

Luis Fabiano is still a few weeks away after recovering from surgery. He is still by far our best option with Pato. Nilmar could fill the #9 role, but he is best suited as a second striker.