Seb Hines

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by bshredder, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we should def add him... it can only help worst case he busts and it cost us nothing
     
  2. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    How did you come to that conclusion?
     
  3. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well then Klinsmann is doing a fairly poor job.
     
  4. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    if we know about him im sure klinsmann has herd of him too
     
  5. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Thanks for another great YA write-up, Brian. (Although that is one dandy of a photo that the club provided.)

    Interesting that he captained his U-16 England team.

    Seems pretty obvious he should be called in. Our back line has some deferred maintenance coming due.
     
  6. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What would make you think that? Rongen apparently had huge lists of guys with potential to play for the US before he left his position (or was he fired, I don't remember) with the U-20s. I'm pretty sure that if we can figure out about him, Klinsmann can do it to.
     
  7. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    swedust, deuteronomy and FirstStar repped this.
  8. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Ok, so to re-cap his status and eligibility:

    1) A born dual British-American citizen with a valid US passport in hand.

    2) Has represented England U-19s and would need to file a one-time switch of affiliation to be eligible to accept a call-up from Klinsmann.

    Correct? We could have him in time for Honduras or at least Costa Rica/Mexico in March if Klinsmann were in a hurry to bring him over.
     
  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correctamundo
     
  10. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goodson and Boca need to be phased out.

    Goodson immediately and Boca eventually.
     
  11. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Hines would interested in playing in the Gold Cup this upcoming summer. I'd think that would be his best chance.
     
  12. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure he would. It sounds like he really wants to play for USA, and really wants Jurgen to ask him to switch.
     
  13. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can he just apply for the one-time switch or does US soccer have to say "we want him" or something like that?
     
  14. SeaOtter

    SeaOtter Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He can apply on his own I would imagine. It's his choice and not the U.S. federation's.

    His only reason for not doing so atm has to be that he doesn't want to limit himself only to The U.S., just in case they don't come calling.
     
  15. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    I think it's more that Seb knows he has no chance to play for England while he looks at the US CB pool and sees a chance.
     
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  16. SeaOtter

    SeaOtter Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't get me wrong, I know the U.S. is realistically his only option. But why would he file without being asked? He'd be limiting himself without reason was my point.

    I understand why he's being so forthcoming with his "desire". I also understand why he's not filing prior to being asked to represent the U.S.
     
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  17. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do all player wait to be asked before switching?
     
  18. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, one thing is being asked to try out for the team, another is to represent the country in a game.
     
  19. Wessoman

    Wessoman Member+

    Sep 26, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So basically, Seb Hines took a look at our Central defense in the last few games, licked his chops and said "Well, shiat, I can totally play in a World Cup.".

    For both Mr. Hines and the USA, both parties practically have everything to gain and virtually nothing to lose.
     
  20. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    To late...weren't clear enough. Wrong!
     
  21. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    As long as JK is very clear that there are no guarantees, and JK rates him, then no...nothing to lose.
     
  22. j0osh

    j0osh Member

    Dec 8, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God, our CB pool is painful. The prospects are more encouraging, but we havent seen them yet.
    Our 2nd and 3rd options are playing for relegation fodder in Denamrk and the Spanish Second Division FFS

    I would take all American CB's in the Championship over Goodson. Whitbread, Spector and Hines are all improvements. We need to see 7-9 CB's in addition to Cam/Boca to even figure out our depth chart. It's all still hypothetical...and its almost 2013.

    And Boca....I feel an Ol' Yeller scenario coming. It will be sad.
     
  23. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006

    The problem is that Brooks is looking like he could be the answer. Still early but very promising.

    Why is this a problem?


    Zee Germans have noticed.
     
  24. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Yeah. I've been hesitant to include Brooks in my CB scenarios because it sounds like he might end up going with Germany after all.
     
  25. j0osh

    j0osh Member

    Dec 8, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I've heard, Brooks would prefer to go to the US...but a decision needs to be made soon by USSoccer. The German U20 team is not as serious as it sounds compared to the U21 and U23 squads.

    A reasonable timetable would be him in the U20 World Cup and then, depending, with the senior squad possibly late 2013/early 2014 in the run up to the WC
     

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