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Discussion in 'San Antonio Scorpions FC' started by CagedMonky, Feb 15, 2012.
great news. Scorpions are showing alot of positives. Here's to a great year for the Scorpions and the rest of the NASL.
Good read: http://www.crocketteers.com/blog/20...scorpions-stadium-and-the-path-to-prominence/
So who is coming to the the groundbreaking this Wednesday?
wouldnt miss it...
<------ wishes this were on a weekend
Drove on Thousand Oaks past the stadium site yesterday, and it sure looked like there was a lot of earth being moved. Is there something else besides a stadium going on there? North side of Thousand Oaks.
Just the stadium.
In that case, where's the stadium cam?
With the Scorpions pulling in crowds that exceed the capacity of their new stadium, has there been any talk/speculation as to how management addresses that for next season? Immediate commencement of phase two (9,000 total seats) or temporary seating in the end zone.
"Phase 2 will allow up to 9,000 seats along with additional restrooms and concession facilities. The plans will be complete and ready for construction after the end of the 2013 season. Therefore, if consistent fan attendance during the 2013 season justifies moving forward with immediate expansion we will do so in an effort to have construction 100% complete for the 2014 season." http://www.sanantonioscorpions.com/stadium/stadium-plans
Scorpions gave me higher resolution renderings and I converted them to images and put on the Crocketteers website.
See http://www.crocketteers.com/blog/2012/06/01/scorpions-stadium-plans-updated-with-less-phases/ and its okay to cry.
Oh dear Lord that's awesome. Love the new view and VERY MUCH like the new design.
What's the price tag to get it to stage 4?
Since the stadium is privately funded that information has been kept from the public.
The San Antonio Scorpions are having a great debut season both on and off the field. On Saturday they defeated the Atlanta Silverbacks for their 5th win in 10 games, leap-frogging Minnesota and taking sole possession of 2nd place in the NASL, just 1 point off of the league leading Puerto Rico Islanders.
The success the Scorpions have had on the field can be chalked up to coach Tim Hankinson and a budget from owner Gordon Hartman that has allowed him to get veteran players, many whom have spent time in MLS. But the off field success has been perhaps even more astonishing.
While lower level soccer has had it’s success stories in the past, they’ve been far and few between. The Scorpions who where told in a report funded by both Bexar County and the City of San Antonio, told owner Hartman that soccer would not fair well in the city and therefore he would receive no public funding to build a stadium. But Hartman had advisors that told him differently.
Hartman proceeded to get private funding for his new stadium and set about building that facility himself. That plan was presented in early January.
The average attendance for the Scorpions this season has been over 8,500 while playing in Heroes Stadium, a high school field with a track and football lines that holds 11,000. Hartman says the team has sold 3,000 season tickets and he’s concerned about the first phase of his stadium plan.
“That would fill up over half the stadium that we’re currently building,” Hartman said. “So that’s why where there has been some consideration – Do we go to phase two already?”
Hartman says he could yet accelerate the stadium build more but needs to continue to observe attendance.
The Scorpions front office is staffed by Play Book International (PMI) employees which is owned and operated by Michael Hitchcock who is also president of the Scorpions. In a recent interview Hitchcock told IMS that all of of the ten front office staff are PMI contract employees and seven of those ten are PMI executives with ticket sales experience.
While not a lot has changed in the first several phases of the stadium build, the overall look of the venue has changed at full capacity with a more horseshoe shape and more intimate seating then the original plan.
Old plan has 5 phases.
Phase I – 6100 seats, 16 VIP suites.
Phase II – 9,000 seats, 16 VIP suites.
Phase III – 11,000 seats, 34 VIP suites.
Phase IV– 14,000 seats, 34 VIP suites.
Phase V – 18,000 seats, 34 VIP suites.
New plan changes to 4 phases.
Phase I – 6169 seats, 16 VIP suites.
Phase II – 8,000 seats, 16 VIP suites.
Phase III – 12,000 seats, 32 VIP suites.
Phase IV – 18,500 seats, 32 VIP suites.
I haven't seen anybody else post this, but during the pre-game interview with Hartman on Wednesday night, he said that due to the demand, they were going straight to Phase II. Anybody else here this?
They are already planning to build Phase II, but it is to late to implement them in the plans already made to open the stadium in 2013. The Phase II is expected to be completed for the 2014 season, but there will be a stadium next year. Unfortunately, ticket prices may rise to only around 6100 tickets being available, especially if around 1/3 or more are season ticket holder. I expect that with the new stadium opening, people will be more amped up about seeing the game. It is also expected that there will be at least a spanish language television contract, but an english language tv rights may still be years away. With all this involved, I wouldn't be surprised to see season ticket holders fill up 50% of the stadium next year if prices do not change.
Actually, at 6100 the season ticket holders would already make up 50% or more of the seats. There are 3000+ as it stands now (haven't seen numbers as of late but do know that 3000 were sold at a minimum).
i aint gonna lie could be the california/west cost guy in me but i aint much of a texas lover. but let me just say, you guys have me very excited. fc dallas and espically the ugly orange team i can not stand. but for some reason im excited and hope that the scorpians join mls soon. you have a honest owner and hes putting his money where his mouth is. when i first saw the designs for the stadium i thought. eh typical texas thinking, looks like a giant over size high school football stadium but now that hes changed it i actully like it. i look forward to my quakes playing you guys some time down the road. and now i plan to make a trip to texas and hope fully when ever i do i can cath a game. (it looks better then bbva and fc dallas stadium) . let me say thank god your owner didnt fall under the idea of building a concert stage.
Is there a reason why they aren't going to Phase III right away? Is it just money? I get the delay with phase II since they weren't exactly planning on how successful they've been, but isn't an 8k capacity lower than your smallest attendance this season?
No. 7007 in June against Atlanta, and there were two matches at 8100 and 8600 respectively.
My understanding is that they'd like to hold any Open Cup matches as well, at the stadium. 3K for the Laredo match and 7K for the Dynamo match. I'm sure the 8K "capacity" is seating and not complete capacity (again, my understanding of things).
You want to creat a supply and demand supply first. 2nd year tends to have a lost of fans. Playing one year in a stacked always sold out stadium won't hurt it'll only help make a profit and help lower the amount of money spent on building up to phase 2. Then maybe if the crowds keep packing the place and he gets even more season tixs half way through the owner can give the okay to start phase 3. Just my guess