Any one got video of this??? Schalke playmaker Lincoln banned for five matches BERLIN, Feb 27 (Reuters) Schalke 04's Brazilian playmaker Lincoln has been banned for five matches after he was sent off on Sunday for striking Bayer Leverkusen's Bernd Schneider in the face, the German soccer federation (DFB) said on Tuesday. more on Soccernet
I think that had nothing to do with this. This was a clearly unprovoked blow to the face in plain sight of the officials. I think the DFB is sending a clear message that acts such as this will not be tolerated. Unless your name happens to be Oliver Kahn!
I'm not so sure about that. Here's what the KICKER wrote: "Der Brasilianer, als Wiederholungstäter eingestuft, wurde vom Sportgericht des Deutschen Fußball-Bundes (DFB) für fünf Punktspiele gesperrt." http://www.kicker.de/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/362154/
Nah. First red is usually three. Or the first red in a long time. However, that was "violent conduct" and usually draws a stronger suspension.
I don't think it was harsh enough either and it doesn't have anything to do with his being a Scheisse player. Had one of my guys done that cowardly shit, I'd call for them to get five matches too. Even on a first offense. If it was a second offense, six matches.
So why couldn't this be discussed in the Schalke thread? (don't mean to bitch around, but it's sort of a double-discussion)
You just want to argue today, don't you?? The fact that not all players get three matches for a first red card is exactly why I said "usually". Some get as few as two matches depending on the referee's report, some one when it is deemed by the committee that the red card might not have been deserved, but the DFB doesn't want to "show up" their referees. Of course, you'll never get them to admit that last part....
Schalke? Thread? What? I would want to defend myself more from Ramelow or Babic, not Schneider. Has the punnishment been increased because it happend after the match was officially over? Would this not be as serious had it happend durring the 90 mins?
His first red card suspension was for spitting, considered Violent Conduct (VC) and usually punished VERY hard by associations as it is seen as the ultimate in disrepect...short of peeing on someone. Typically that is a 3 match ban depending on the association. As stated earlier, associations most certainly DO look at the past history of a player. Shiite, they might look as far back as five years. They are sort of like a parole board in that respect. While his most recent action WAS a red card, I think if any o ther player (without such a history) had done so it would not have been so long a suspension. With his record since 2001 (19 cautions, 2 y/r and 1 red) the DFB is sending Mr. Lincoln a clear signal. Whether he GETS it or not is another story.
At first I said the DFB were sending a message that such behavior would not be tolerated. Then, it comes out that they considered his past red in this punishment. With that, I don't think this punishment was harsh enough. You walk up, after the final whistle, totally unprovoked (at that moment) and shove your hand into another player's face clearly with the intention to hurt him. I say that MF should have seen five matches just for that and if they were going to take past conduct into consideration, they should have suspended his ass for six or seven matches. I thought the DFB were sending a message, but they're just being cowardly wusses as usual. No wonder Scheisse didn't put up a fight.........
All true. But if you look at the "punch" it is more like a bitch-slap. Punishable, no doubt. Had it been more of a manly punch, my guess is you would have seen more of a punishment. Also, looked (to me) like the Neverkusen player made the most of it. My guess this was all taken into consideration by the DFB. Were the chicken-shits? Depends on how you saw the "punch" I guess. At the risk of double-posting, I found this little gem. Reminds me of the recent "fights" that have taken place in the EPL and BL. Which one is Lincoln? [youtube]yOvnI61Ra_k[/youtube][/
I've read somewhere that an offence like Lincoln's is usually punished with a ban between 4 and 6 matches. If it's the first offence you'll probably get away with a 4 game ban. But since its Lincoln, he got 5. But I agree that 6 would have been better. And it wasn't just a bitch slap, he rammed is hand into Schneiders face. If Schneider hadn't seen it coming and moved his head back the last second, he might have ended up with a broken nose.