San Antonio USL Pro stadium rejected

http://bit.ly/xkFmSN

good idea, San Antonio already has a ''minor league soccer'' franchise

I wouldn't count SS&E out. There’s still plenty of doubt about whether Hartman can make it work. Things could look a lot different next year.

If Hartman and his Scorpions fail, yes

I see no reason why they couldn't simply buy the Scorpions.

Other than the person currently owning that franchise not wanting to sell. That would be a reason.

lol and the USLpro vs NASL war rages on.

Are you guys just completely ignoring how well Hartman and the Scorpions seem to be doing so far?

I see alot of hopeful thoughts around here that he'll fail so the USLpro can swoop in an sweep up the pieces. What a sad state of mind.

Why don't you spend more energy wishing him well and urging the USL to find another market to expand into?

They've certainly got some nice renderings. I don't know that the kids should expect lots of benefits from all the profits they're going to have.

Oh don't get me wrong, it is fine to be skeptical of his plan to finance the kids facility with his "profits" from the Scorpions.

I'm going to assume that he realizes full well it will be hard to turn a profit with his soccer team and that saying those hypothetical profits will help support his other project is harmless I guess.

As long as he sticks to his plan of only using "profits".

Otherwise, there is a ton of buzz over the team and unless there is a whole lot of lying going on (always possible) they are doing quite well with sales leading up to their first season. They seem to be doing pretty well connecting with fans and the community and their communication is good.

I'm rooting for them. Except the fact that their SG says they have over 20 drums. That part I will make fun of, but alas it is merely a difference in style and taste.

Nobody wants to see the Scorpions do poorly. Just because people express doubts over Hartman's ability to finance a soccer team long term does not mean we want the team to fail. Jesus Christ.

jesus christ ain't got nothin' to do with it.

But your paranoia that we all just are thinking of ways to screw over the NASL has a whole hell of a lot to do it.

Us doubting Hartman's ability has nothing to do with NASL. We'll see how it goes. The City Stars were one of the best run organizations in USL, at least in USL-2. You see how far that got us.

lol not paranoid. Just taking pot shots at some posters around here and other places. Good for you if YOU aren't a scumbag, but you don't speak for everyone.

And also because they executed it really poorly.

Who was there first? What's the timeline?

Who says USL is forcing SS&E to start a team? Do people really think that USL has some sort of power over a major sports group to force them, against their will, to start a minor-league soccer team?

It's just more people lining up to hate on USL. I don't get everyone's fascination about it. NASL won; the fight is over, yet some posters constantly feel threatened. Maybe Francisco Marco took their mothers out and never called again.

Trying to understand how NASL fanboys think would make Sigmund Freud jump out of a window. For your own safety, don't attempt it.

However, mocking them is perfectly acceptable. I'm sure Kenn can provide some helpful tips

Just one in particular, usually.

Ok it's not up to USL?

Marcos said "I expect the VSI projects, in Tampa and Rio Maior, to have significant interplay for everyone’s benefit."

VSI recently partnered with the Brandon Flames to create a similar academy in Tampa, Fla., with teams set to compete in the USL PDL, W-League and Super-20 League in 2012 and USL PRO in 2013.

http://www.uslsoccer.com/home/592988.html

Holt and his untapped Tampa market statement can go to........

He didn't say that.

At the end of the day, no, it's not, though. If SS&E wants to do it, they will. If they don't, no amount of cajoling from USL will make them. That's the point.

But when someone makes a point, you're incapable of seeing nuance. Everything you ever write is through the prism of "USL bad. NASL good." Your thought process really doesn't go any deeper than that.

Awww....is that what's botherin' ya, Bunky?

But starting your own league when there was a league? Totally fair play.

The market will decide. It doesn't appear to me the Spurs were either (a) serious enough or ( b) really interested enough to do what had to be done to make it happen. Kudos to the Scorpions for making the actual effort despite the distractions. They hired an actual pro-level coach and GM, and the stadium situation is really the only thing they've struggled with so far.

Just don't draw any grand conclusions from their opener. The key isn't game one. It's game 11. And season three.

Exactly so the same applies to Orlando