Russia 2018: News & Analysis

Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. Capt.Tsubasa

    Capt.Tsubasa Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Lesbians and gays are not of any different race.

    You're talking about Russia here, or FIFA?!
     
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  2. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    What an intelligent comment. So intelligent! Did you read the entire sentence up until the word Intolerance? Did you know that racism is a form of intolerance? Substitute the word "racism" with "intolerance" and maybe you'll get it a little better
     
  3. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Your values are in the right place, but what do you propose FIFA to do? Have every WC in the Netherlands? LBG intolerance is pretty much everywhere because religion and insecurity is everywhere.
     
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  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    It's not necessarily straightforward that Russia will be a controversial host when 2018 rolls around. For instance, Spain was awarded their WC during Franco's rule. By the time 1982 arrived he was long dead. Regardless, FIFA has nearly never involved itself in politics in the 80+ years it's handed out World Cups. The only exception was South Africa during apartheid.
     
  5. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yes, WC in the Netherlands, please!

    Not all of them though... We'd go bankrupt.... ;)
     
  6. whitecloud

    whitecloud Member+

    Jan 25, 2009
    Gulf Shores, AL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If it escalates to full international sanctions it is out of FIFA's control. Right now we are only at the level of sanctions against individuals. But, if it rises to economic sanctions against Russia proper FIFA will have to move the event because breaching the sanction would be a violation of Swiss and international law. It's not there yet, but it's getting close.
     
  7. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well, by the looks of it, some of the Russian population has embrassed the anti gay laws put in place. Even if Putin leaves, it's likely the laws will still be around...
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What sanctions would these be? There's obviously zero chance any UN sanctions are imposed, so it'd have to be unilaterally imposed by the EU and US.
     
  9. doritos93

    doritos93 Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Montreal - Europe
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Which seems like a long shot for the time being...
     
  10. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    WC in Russia was a bad decision. I don't consider Russia "Europe" to begin with awful choice.
     
  11. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do your geographical quotations have to do with it?
     
  12. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I don't view it as culturally, historically or socially within Europe the quotes were just empathizing that point. But Ukraine hosted well in 2012 so maybe Russia can too.
     
  13. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    The South Africa ban was an exception only because there are probably around 60 or so FIFA votes from countries with a majority black population. It wasn't because FIFA is against intolerance.
     
  14. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    True plus the whole world paradigm against South Africa shifted against it by the late 60s and early 70s. FIFA, IOC, UN and every other multinational/international organization just jumped on board.
     
  15. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So countries outside your defined "Europe" should not be allowed to host the World Cup or what?
     
  16. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    Yet everything to do with football in Russia is in Europe. Yes a vast land, but how do you see them outside of Europe?
     
  17. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    See my other posts I already explain it. If 2018 must be in Europe I would prefer England, benleaux nations.
     
  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2018 didn't have to be in UEFA, let alone some imagined "Europe."
     
  19. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. druryfire

    druryfire Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    England
    2018 didn't have to go to Europe, it could of gone anywhere, but thats how it panned out with nations pulling out to make 2018 European so they would have a better shot at 2022.

    Russia is a European football nation, yes it may expand into Asia, but Russia hasn't chosen any Asian cities to host games...... would have been cool if they did!
     
  21. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yekaterinburg is east of the Urals. The border between Europe and Asia is somewhat vague but most people use the Ural range as the border.
     
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  22. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Well, it sorta had to if you know what I mean. They had powerful "motivations".
     
  23. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the non Euro bids dropped out.
     
  24. themightymagyar

    Aug 25, 2009
    Indianapolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the non Euro bids were basically told to drop out. The U.S. certainly didn't want to drop out.
     
  25. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Exactamundo.
     

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