Re: America is letting the world down I just saw the list of confirmed victims on the Guardian's website. How are they not simply sued out of existence?
Re: America is letting the world down they've been paying people off for ages but also the Met didn't manage to tell a lot of people they had been targetted
Re: America is letting the world down Just watching the debate in Parliament and Tom Watson has completely blown Brooks' statement out of the water. She claimed it was "incomprehensible" that she knew about the hacking, yet an article in the NOTW when she was editor specifically referred to a message on Milly Dowler's phone. He's also claimed to have more evidence he will release later in the week and implicated James Murdoch in making payments to silence people. NI, meanwhile, are saying everything's ok as Brooks was on holiday at the time of the hacking.
Re: America is letting the world down Basically if NI want to salvage their ad revenue and put this to bed, they need to feed her to the wolves. It's clear a number of editors and pols have sharpened their axes and see a fab opportunity to settle some scores. Couldn't happen to a nicer person
Re: America is letting the world down Extract from Tom Watson's speech: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...hacking-live?commentpage=21#start-of-comments
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal I think we've gone beyond that now. There's also something that's difficult to make sense of without further investigation and it relates to this... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...of-murder-was-on-coulson-payroll-2239757.html Private investigator cleared of murder was on Coulson pay-roll A private investigator acquitted of one of Britain's longest unsolved murders had extensive links with corrupt police officers and was being paid thousands of pounds to supply information to the News of the World under the editorship of former Downing Street spin doctor Andy Coulson. Jonathan Rees, who walked free from the Old Bailey after his trial for the murder of his business partner collapsed due to Scotland Yard failures, was rehired by Rupert Murdoch's Sunday newspaper despite being sentenced to six years' imprisonment for plotting to plant cocaine in a former model's car. The Guardian reported last night that it had written to Mr Coulson prior to his appointment to Downing Street in 2010 asking him to comment on the decision to hire Mr Rees. The paper said that Prime Minister David Cameron was also made aware of the private investigator's record and his employment by the NoW before he gave Mr Coulson a job as his spokesman. The private detective, who worked for the NoW between 1993 and 2000 and then after 2005, enjoyed a lucrative relationship with several Fleet Street titles, using his contacts with corrupt Metropolitan Police officers, other law enforcement officials, bank workers and phone company employees to obtain illegal information. Mr Rees, 56, who reportedly earned up to £150,000 a year from the NoW, had numerous targets including former Labour minister Peter Mandelson, Tony Blair's press chief Alastair Campbell, rock star Mick Jagger, television presenters Richard Madeley and Judy Finnigan, and the singer George Michael, according to The Guardian. The private detective allegedly inhabited a shadowy world where corrupt officers and former detectives would approach him with information about celebrities and high-profile criminals, including M25 murderer Kenneth Noye. So basically what we have is a private investigator, the former business partner of a murder victim, being the main suspect in the case. I've since heard on the BBC news that the reason for the lack of a successful conviction was police corruption at the time of the initial enquiry. Of course, this raises the question, was there any collaboration between the criminal fraternity and their police contacts that filtered across to the police contacts in the 'meeja'. That issue is raised because of this... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...spied-on-detective-during-murder-inquiry.html But the tabloid allegedly claimed that it was investigating whether or not Det Sup Cook was having an affair with Jacqui Hames, a co-presenter on Crimewatch, to whom he was actually married at the time. The couple were informed by police two months ago that their personal details had been discovered in three pages of notes made by the News of the World investigator Glenn Mulcaire. The details held were understood to include addresses and mobile phone numbers and even payroll details. Mr Morgan’s murder was the subject of a long-running and complex investigation. Thousands of lines of inquiry were pursued and over three quarters of a million documents examined. No-one was brought to justice despite five police inquiries and three years of legal hearings, estimated to have cost around £30 million. Five people were arrested in 2008 but two, including a former detective accused of perverting justice, were discharged after a string of supergrasses were discredited. In March this year, Detective Chief Superintendent Hamish Campbell, a senior Scotland Yard detective, apologised to Mr Morgan’s family after the Crown Prosecution Service dropped the case against the remaining three suspects, admitting that police corruption was a “debilitating factor”. So we have a newspaper monitoring a policeman investigating the murder of a private detective, (ostensibly because they suspected two people were 'having an affair', despite them already being married to each other), and using a private investigator who may, (and many will think did), have links to the same police sources who nobbled the investigation into the main suspect in the first place. Of course, we can all rest assured that the matter will be properly investigated by.... ah!
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal Yes - I read a little bit about this. People call me a 'conspiracy theorist' as regards matchfixing in the UK. But that is small biccies compared to this.
Re: America is letting the world down Coulson's all but finished now. In the recent Tommy Sheridan perjury case, he swore under oath that he knew nothing of payments made to police officers. Press conference tomorrow in Glasgow where Tom Watson is set to give more information. The question is, is Coulson willing to bring others down with him?
Re: America is letting the world down Murdoch has made a statement backing dear Becky Lets see if it holds
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal This is probably one of the biggest scoops in modern times in the UK
Re: America is letting the world down Now it's the families of dead servicemen who've apparantly been targeted. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...f-war-dead-targeted-by-News-of-the-World.html
Re: America is letting the world down The News of the World is about to be killed off like the vermin it is. It's major advertisers are pulling out. Papers cannot make a profits these days without adverts. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Perhaps the rest of the tabloids will learn a lesson too. http://itn.co.uk/business/23301/Major+companies+pull+advertising+at+NoTW You've got the Milly Dowler outrage and now the latest is that the NOTW hacked the relatives of war casualties! Talk about a blow to their PR. On top of the revelations about hacking the phones of victims of the 2007 London bombings, this behaviour is truly shocking and deplorable. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...f-war-dead-targeted-by-News-of-the-World.html
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal Really? Not too sure why... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Grobbelaar#Match-fixing_allegations The truth is that match fixing is done by individuals so, by definition, it can happen anywhere. Having said that it's more difficult in leagues where the viewer figures are very large and where the players are well paid. How much would you have to pay someone to play like shit if they're earning several million pounds a year PARTICULARLY if they're then dropped by their manager and sold to a minor club on half the wages. Simply on that basis, (if no other), I suspect it's not a big problem in the EPL. Mind you, having watched Chelsea games for a few years I can't say the same thing for the refs, particularly in games against barca Agreed.
Re: America is letting the world down Thanks mate. You always know the right thing to say to make us laugh when we need it Mind you, this also means that those companies advertising budget will go further because it will be spread over fewer publications and there will STILL be the same number of cars, TV's, washing machines, etc. sold. If I were running those businesses I would be saddened, shocked and appalled at the latest news... if you catch my drift Of course, you're also assuming that NI won't start up 'News of Screws 2', (although they MIGHT not go with that title?), in about 6-12 months time.
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal I'm happy for the title to be changed if people think it appropriate.
Re: NI/NOTW phone hacking scandal NI say there is worse to come Of course, we don't know FOR CERTAIN that Hitler ordered the invasion of Poland, do we
Re: America is letting the world down NOTW claim to have paid police officers up to £30,000 per mobile phone number and they now say they will provide the names of those officers to the investigators. What jolly decent chaps they are.
Re: America is letting the world down Its difficult to see how any of this fits with News' insistence until very recently that this was an isolated incident. I mean we had people like Coulson and Brooks saying that to MPs.
Re: America is letting the world down Irony got a wooden stake through the heart and a silver bullet through the forehead when the PI responsible for the phone hacks asked for his and his family's privacy to be respected...
Re: America is letting the world down This phone hacking story is the main front page news story of all the British newspapers today. Apart from NOTW sister paper, the Sun, which is going with 'Rio Ferdinand's 10 lovers' scandal. LOL
Re: America is letting the world down I didn't realise Becky Brooks was leading the News Inquiry in to herself Hahahahahahaha!
Re: America is letting the world down I know the answer already, but is there any chance this makes it's way up to Murdoch? Because that would pretty much make my decade.