Ronaldo vs Messi

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by shayanmufc, Nov 1, 2012.

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after seeing the description...do you think messi deserves to be the world player of the year?

Poll closed Nov 5, 2012.
  1. yes

    50.0%
  2. no

    50.0%
  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yes, that why Messi was better statistically, any which way you looked it, and was chosen as the best forward and best player of La Liga 11-12. Only thing absurd is your utter delusion. You don't even watch the games and you still spew that nonsense.
     
  2. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    So you're saying Ronaldo has been playing just fine and it's only the rest of RM who is struggling right ? :rolleyes:
     
  3. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Since when do titles matter?
    This is an award for individual performance
    And individually messi has eclipsed ronaldo
     
  4. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Ronaldo also contributes to the unrest at real madrid

    Why does he want the ballon dor? Casillas and ramos deserve It just as much or more then Ronaldo,
    After all they are espanol

    But it's a
    Lost cause because messi will win anyways
    Or Ronaldo wants more money as usual?
    Casillas and ramos had just as much to do with la liga win as Ronaldo
     
  5. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    Yes that is exactly what I'm saying. You're so intelligent.
     
  6. benficafan3

    benficafan3 Member+

    Nov 16, 2005
    Ronaldo had more goals the year before, but Messi won La Liga. He broke the La Liga goal scoring record that year FFS, yet Messi scored plenty of goals, and still won the league. Thus he was better.

    Wow, he was chosen as best player of La Liga? If I recall correctly, wasn't Guardiola also voted best coach of the year? After clearly losing out to Mourinho? Your arguments are real solid bud :rolleyes:
     
  7. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Brazil
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Messi also won the CL, scoring 2 goals vs. Madrid and a goal in the CL final. He finished as the CL top scorer for the 3rd year in a row.

    Even if CR7 was slightly better than Messi in the first half of 2012, Messi has been more than slightly better than CR7 in the second half. Again, this is an individual award for the entire calendar year, not just the first half. Messi's decisive goals in the first half of the 12/13 season are just as important as they would have been if he were scoring them in the second half of the 12/13 season.
     
  8. FROADS

    FROADS Member

    Jun 30, 2011
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    This shouldn't even be a debate anymore. Messi is clearly the better football player. If you were to ask who was the physically faster player or who has the better aerial game, it would be Ronaldo. But overall, Messi is miles ahead. Dribbling, vision, positioning, and consistency all favor Messi. Trying to deny that is like trying to block the sun with one finger. He backs it up statistically and visually. Something Iniesta can't back up when taken into consideration because he lacks solid numbers but in most games displays his flashy dribbling game.
     
  9. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The famous Portuguese reverse logical reasoning. :laugh: Everybody who has been watching their games knows who has been better, and is now in a completely different level.

    MoM - Rating in La Liga (whoscored.com based on 200 OPTA statistics)

    09-10
    Messi 14 - 8.53
    Cronaldo 11 - 8.26

    Player of the year: Messi

    10-11
    Messi 23 - 8.84
    Cronaldo 13 - 8.35

    Player of the year: Messi

    11-12
    Messi 24 - 8.91
    Cronaldo 15 - 8.35

    Player of the year: Messi

    12-13
    Messi 11 - 9.01
    Cronaldo 4 - 7.85

    Player of the half year: Messi

    Only deluded fans see some faults in that series.
     
  10. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    +1
    Messi is better. It is practically a fact. Ronaldo has very little on Messi, not in goals, not in assists, not in number of shots taken versus shots converted in goals, not in goals in against tougher opposition in the Champions' League not in pretty much anything really. The only thing Ronaldo can claim parity on is international play, and even that is evaporating and I expect should be fully exposed in 2014.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Please ... where is the Ronaldo that was saving RM last season when the team was also doing badly ? This season Messi has already "bailed" Barca out multiple times when the team wasn't doing well. Specially earlier in the season. While RM forwards are struggling to score, but so is Ronaldo. Think of the misses he has had like the open goal in the last game against Malaga, the ball that hit the post after he ran 90 meters, the ill conceited long range shots that go astray or get blocked.
     
  12. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Messi is better than Cristiano.

    The comparison is only when we enter the field of numbers, as the number of goals scored by each, assists, etc and artillery.

    In the field, play ball, Messi is much more talented, more complete and impressive. I have no doubt.
     
  13. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is the most awesome post I've ever seen.
     

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