Robin Fraser needs to go

Easy Big Ty. Statistics major. Small sample size? freshman statistics rears it's ugly little head. maybe these last three years were just outliers. No but your right. I'm gonna give hime a chance. Last season he was not so concerned with points in the early part of the season and made some strange line-up choices with what he had.It concerned me then and still bugs me a little. and I'm just not a fan of U.S, College style soccer. to me it's borring and I feel like thats what he's implementing with our team. In other words" anyteam USA". I was hoping for more. Not meaning we have to be the best but we should have our own style. But....beggers can't be choosers and a ticket to the play offs would be a nice thing to get back. Alright culeros you guys are right. Close the thread. I admit I way jumped the gun. Insert foot in mouth. my bad

no hay P-do sodi_gar ...para eso es el foro para expresar lo que uno siente y como uno mira el futbol... tu echale chingasos

What Chivas needs is stability. Fraser needs time to put in his work ethics and his players to play his way. Not to just go out there and try to play together.

It is true. The Chivas USA staff can hardly give a rats @$$ about the fans. They are more worried about getting as big of a return profit wise with out putting much in. The whole staff needs reshuffling. From GM to tix ops.

I agree with giving Robin Fraser stability. However, I do feel this team cares about our fans. According to your logic, stability is needed, so clearly giving Domene (GM) more time falls in line with that logic. Also in reference to Ticket Ops, my experience with them has been nothing but classy.

Across the board, I feel Chivas USA upgraded their personnel from the 2011 season. I'm very optimistic the 2012 version of the Goats will be much improved.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion about the club. However, when people complain about the team, generalizations without alternatives are weak arguments. (Ex. The GM needs to be reshuffled) If so, then state why? Within a year of being GM, what has he done to hurt the team? What could he have done differently? Who would do a better job? Or another example (The Staff doesn't care about the fans.) Again, please elaborate. Did you have a personal experience to reinforce this? Was a member of the staff disrespectful to you?

Either you are a constructive critical evaluator of the team, or you are a divisive whiner. Being critical is healthy, but whining is exactly what it is.

I am very pleased with the direction of the team's personnel, treatment towards supporter groups, commitment to a new facility, and overall optimistic with the future.

Thats what im talking about Big Ty

Let's just say I am an insider. Do not want to give too much info away.

Don't get me wrong, I care deeply about the CUSA. Why? Cause I feel, unlike most other teams, this team is fan built. With that being said, CUSA is trying to rebrand their organization while still being the fan's club. I love this thinking of moving to their own facility, it will only better the clubs relationship with the fans.

I've seen on many occasions that some of the staff do not care about the fans especially on game days. The fans spend money for a good experience, the staff needs to check their attitudes at the door. I want Chivas to succeed here in LA.

So lets address a few things.

- You want to whine and criticize the team but still be vague at the same time by calling yourself an "Insider." Look, unless Antonio Cue cuts your paychecks, you are no more of an Insider than us Season Ticket Holders.

-I have no idea what "Fan Built" means, but you use it has a justification to not "Re-Brand" the team. Here's the deal, I'm pretty sure Domene and Faser are just trying to get the best 11 guys out there, no matter what their nationality is. If they can play and are affordable, THEY WANT THEM IN STRIPES!

-You then transition to "Many Occasions/Some of the Staff" Quote "Do Not Care" about the fans. The reason I consider this offensive is because "SOME" of this staff are my friends. And I see you skipping around and taking shots with no specificity at all. For ex. lets say .....hypothetically Gary Gomez called blew me off at a game. Then, not only would I confront Gary Gomez, but I would call him by name on the forum. And for the record......I love Gary Gomez. Remember, the Guest Relations Staff is small and they are operating with a handful of interns on game day. This small staff is responsible for the 14,000 plus that show up. I can assure, that job is tough. In my opinion, they do their job with class and professionalism. If they have an "Attitude", please elaborate. Please give details.

-Your final point is "I want Chivas to succeed in LA." Me too. That's exactly why I am picking apart your bewildering argument. I want this club to reach their goal of 2500 season ticket holders. I also want people to know that I appreciate the grass roots approach of Chivas USA's Guest Relations Department. Until you speak in concrete terms, you are elusive in your attack on MY TEAM. And furthermore, I would hate for a potential season ticket holder to read your ambiguous comments and be hesitant to sample the product.


Go Goats

You make strong points. Passionate fans should be complimented by passionate staff. Sorry if I do not make myself clear. I do not mind the clashing of the brains.

Don't get me wrong. I know a lot of the CUSA staff members. Gomez is probably one of a kind and is priceless. Bringing him back was a huge boost to the Chivas staff. Though, you must look on the outside. You said you are friends with many of the staff members, so of course they are going to treat you nice - more than others. That occasional fan who has a problem is not going to get the four-star treatment as you would.

First impressions are important. Chivas staff are not welcoming enough. Or I should point out, some are not more welcoming than others. Work hard for the fans, the ones that keep buying tickets to games. The ones who want to see their favorite players at an affordable price. I think we all agree that all fans should be treated as they are a season-ticket holder. Chivas USA is probably your best spot for affordable professional sports in LA. The fans are the one spending their hard earned money, seeking more bang for your buck is expected.

Sorry if I don't make myself clear or being vague. If there are no fans, there is no team. CUSA is a community team. It should be complimented with a full committed staff who feel the fans are important every single game, season-ticket holder or not. Like I've said, I do not mind the bashing. Hope a Chivas USA staff member are monitoring this forum. I do agree they are moving in the right direction. With every change is improvement. Hopefully with every change brings success for the club, on and off the field. : )

Let’s go back to topic. Frasier needs to go!!!!!
We need to seriously stop making all this same mistakes in hiring ex galaxy losers. How can we have our own identity when we get old freaks that only play for the money? I still don’t get it, isn’t better to just get an 18 year old that can actually help the team in the long run?

Ace you have some good points i agree with you all fans should be treated the same by the staff and if that means more training then chivas should pay for the training, and train the right candidates because we have bump into some staff that make me felt like they just care about me bringing ppl to the stadium (make me felt like i was being used) thank God they are out of the institution cuss people like that we don’t need here …….. some of them understand that we will be there no matter what and that they are only working for the club and staff comes and goes …the Loyal ? since day 1

US chiva- regarding Robin we have to have some continuity so we have to give hem at least this year no playoffs/ constant stile of play no more robin im all for that.
As per bringing ex- galasi players I F^%%$## hate that s*^%&$&*t so Pete Vajinas has lots of work to do if he wants to earn some respect, for know I just think he is here because he is good friends with robin, Vanney and they wanted to help hem get some $$$ in his bank account…prove me wrong

To answer your question; No. Not by their actions or inaction, anyway.

What I was referring to was that with the money we are wasting on vajinas, we should look for younger local talent. Whatever vejinas is making can be more useful with a young kid. Let’s give a chance to the youth, is not like we are a super club!

Let me give you a perspective on what the stupid FO is doing, hope is not too complex for you. This is like flipping a coin, at least with someone young we have a 50/50 chance, but with vajinas the coin flipping loses its value. Who will bet on a coin that we already know both sides are the same? It sure will fool some idiots. Waste of money and possible talent.

I've been saying that since Preki wouldn't insert Flores. And kept him in begrudgingly when he went on that little scoring streak.

Instead of wasting your coin analogy here, try sending it to Jose and the other Marks running the team.

So I ask the Supporters Groups, will you refer to Vagenas as Vaginas at the game or is that not family friendly enough? I read an article where he blamed the Goats fans for busting one of his car windows or something. This only reveals his racism because he automatically blamed the brown kids. Unless he saw someone with his own two eyes then he shouldn't cast aspersions. I hope those idiots in the Legion. If anything just so he feels good about being racist.

http://www.pe.com/sports/soccer/soccer-headlines-index/20120214-soccer-time-to-embrace-the-enemy.ece

Pass back Pete believes. I'm over it. I just want Chivas USA to return to the playoffs.

nice...thanks for the link march

Like I mention pete vajemas has to do more than what he did when he was 19 to earn some respect…. I don’t think we have to pay hundreds of dollars for 1 player to build a looker room or because he know how to win..in that case I would hire pete vajinas as a counselor or assistant of the assistant of the assistant coach $17.00 per hour
Get out there and prove all of us wrong !
Just my thoughts

Bump! The season is just starting, we still have time to get rid of this idiot!

Right. Because the Roster is so loaded that anyone can win with it.

Who should take over for this guy? Forrest Gump seems to have a good track record. Everything he touches turns to gold. Who is with me?

But you shouldn't worry. I'm pretty confident this will be his last Season. This seems to be the model for this organization. Quite frankly im surprised he wasn't axed this past off season.

he desrves a full season to see what he can do. But to be honest hovs, we probably have the most talent than we have had in about three years. Preaseason and this first game indicates to me that we have abandoned tic-tac (short precise pass) soccer/futbol. We were lobbing balls over to a lone striker hoping Angel was going to out run young defenders. Angel has good positioning but.... Still I think Robin deserves a fair shake . if we get mathmatically close to no post season than we start rebuilding right away and call on Bradley to come back home or El Chelis. Those are two types of coaches that get the most out of what they have (trust me chelis had pescadito ruiz and herc gomez and he had puebla looking better than they ever looked. he also speaks English).Oh and Paco Palencia will be looking for coaching gigs.
in the meanwhile I hope our play gets more attractive, our goal account opens, and we win more games than last two seasons.... por favor diosito...Amen

Let the man work, its hard to believe others would do much better at this point.

This. We are going to have to be patient with Romero and Townsend. I think they are going to surprise some of you.
We still have Moreno, too. Bolanos is a withdrawn forward, as well.

como me cae en un webo perder!
lo malo de esto es que el equipo NI PIES >>>>NI CABESA !
esperemos este sabado en RSL sean un poco mejor y demenos traegamos un punto

When there's so much turnover and a boost of youth on our squad, how can you blame Fraser? All these new faces mean there's an expected downtime to build chemistry. We're gonna look sloppy for the next few weeks.

This is all on the front office. $$