News: Robbie Rogers Retires, Also Maybe Comes Out?

And the first double entendre award goes to....

(What, we can't make jokes?)

 

http://deadspin.com/5984581/us-nati...ogers-comes-out-as-gay-walks-away-from-soccer

Just posted on Deadspin.

 

Heh. No humor intended on my part. But I'm all for humor, 24/7.

 

People are past it...in THOSE professions. Consider how behind the times this sport is when it comes to racism and ask yourself if people are truly "past it" when it comes to sexual orientation...

Just saying.

 

Your first post in this thread, in which you seemed to demand something of him (as an athlete, but not as an individual going through a difficult personal process and series of decisions), didn't show much respect, imo.

 

Um, he just announced that he was gay. That's why it's part of the discussion.

 

Well, in fairness the thread title does indicate its subject is his retirement and coming out, so you should note that going in.

Most of the discussion thus far has struck me as supportive of his right to retire and conveying some awareness of the challenges and courage involved with coming out. Whether that is liberal or progressives doesn't really interest me but its not clear to me what about it is drivel.

 

Well, excuse me for trying to focus a US soccer forum on I don't know.... ...US soccer.
I think it is news he is able to admit he is struggling with his personal life but should it really be a focus of conversation in the US soccer forum? And it seems everyone here is talking on a leftist/ progressive type of platform. As if society has to accept something the majority believes is sinful.

 

I want the neg-rep option back bungadiri !

We are focusing on that, but there is absolutely a talking point about Robbie coming out and how that relates to his early retirement. If you can't see that then perhaps you're the one driveling all over this thread.

 

Dang, that means that all we got for Oduro was Dutka (spell?) bad trade

 

Holy shit...please go away. I'll leave it at that.

 

I recently spoke with Christina Kahrl - the transgender cofounder of baseball prospectus and writer, who knows a lot more about homosexuality and sports than I bet Mr Martin does - and she thinks it would still take extraordinary bravery for an athlete to come out while playing.

Although, to he fair, she does think soccer and hockey are likely to be earlier than some other sports.

 

Hey, Freedom of religious expression. You go away if you don't like it.

 

http://www.norc.org/PDFs/2011 GSS Reports/GSS_Public Attitudes Toward Homosexuality_Sept2011.pdf

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108115/americans-evenly-divided-morality-homosexuality.aspx

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-gay-marriage/2012/05/10/gIQAPg3IGU_blog.html

Not sure that that is true.

 

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But is his reasoning for retiring the reason why he failed in Europe and is not part of the current player pool? That is inconclusive. And debatable.

 

I think you have a right to express yourself. I would point out that throwing around liberal/progressive as pejoratives and characterizing support for someone's act in the face of a good deal of bigotry as drivel doesn't strike me as helpful to respectful discussion.

 

Well if it sounds like a duck and quacks like a duck.

 

Actually, one area where Mr. Martin was completely right is that things are changing pretty rapidly on this front.

Roughly a decade ago, a majority of Americans believed homosexuality was sinful. That number is now down to a little over a third of Americans in recent polling. Which is neither here nor there, but I figured I'd just offer some clarification since you brought it up.

 

For anyone thinking that Rodgers would not have faced people like Clenbuterol they are crazy, Rodgers would have faced much worst comments from other players and opposing fans.

This post makes Rodgers point to retire.

BTW props for being truthful and not PC, I may disagree with you but you have the right to say what you said.

Also is not the majority.

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/01/10/americans-less-inclined-to-view-homosexuality-as-a-sin/

 

And of course, BigSoccer isn't the us government. There's no freedom just to post incendiary bigoted nonsense.