River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 [R]

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  1. Illrod3

    Illrod3 Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  2. leoriver

    leoriver New Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    en el monu
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    I mentioned somewhere before that el paragua de Bobodilla was'nt going to have the same luck like he did when RIver played Libertad. ;)
     
  3. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Well ... I read thru the last 2 pages today, and found you delighted with the game. Good for you guys, you needed to win something, even if it was only a superclasico. No arruguen en Brazil now ...

    If, and only if, you play the game, you know that the mistakes that caused the River goals came from the bench. It is as simple as that.

    What has changed in the past 4 weeks under La Volpe?
    - Play the ball from the back
    - Play with 3 in the back
    - Use achique (offside trap)
    - Zone marking instead of man to man in set pieces.
    - No playmaker = Gago carrying the construction = Ledesma as the DM which he is not.
    - No surprise in attack ... two wingers (Datolo and Calvo) opening the field but as visible and expected as inefective. (How many times did Calvo reach the end line?)
    - The burning of youngsters, given roles that are not their natural.
    - Take Cardozo out his best position, left midfield
    - The subs ... what a headache.


    I heard La Volpe's press conference on Friday. In a passage of it, you can sense his naivity and lack of understanding of Argentinian footy. He was "protesting" how players hold shirts and rivals inside the box in set pieces. That in "Europe" this doesn't happen. I bring this up because his starting concept of how the game is played is what makes him decide how his team needs to play.

    Zone marking in set pieces? In Argentinian footy? Boca has received 5 goals of 7 in 3 games due to it. 3 defenders? You need a fast last man, which Cata is not. Which Silvestre is not either to chase attackers wide on the right. Silvestre had clean games until yesterday. Offside trap? Look at River's 2nd and 3rd, and the ones they missed due to lack of quality. While Farias was playing the "hook", Higuain was free to run thru.

    Taking Gago out of the DM and giving him the role of creating the football in the mid is a role he can probably do. But the team has no real DM to back him ... a player that has his ability to read the game and the timing to cut advances. This unbalances the team ...

    Using Calvo and Datolo wide open cut the surprise in attack. Calvo hasn't reached the end line once in the games he has played under La Volpe. He always did under Coco because he would fill the spaces coming from behind as surprise. Datolo ... used as a winger and solely as a winger limits his ability and vision to the sideline. All game long, La Volpe would demand Datolo to get on the side. Boxed there. To try to go thru Ferrari and Tuzzio and cross. No surprise. No creativity.

    Neri ... fast and talented to cut inside with his most favorable foot, when starting on the left, has lost all his spark. And is replaced with a youngster!

    I could go on and on with things he has changed and which have had an effect on the team's performance. Most important is the stubborn thought that players need to adapt to a tactical scheme instead of using a tactical scheme that maximizes the players he has at his disposal. And this is very serious, as he is burning out youngsters to fill those gaps. Not giving them the time to blend into 1st team action.

    The end result is 2 won, 1 tied, 2 lost. 6 goals scored and 7 received. And now that Palermo will be out 6-8 weeks ...


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  4. Illrod3

    Illrod3 Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Good points,... now go sign Maradona so that the debacle can continue. :D
     
  5. leoriver

    leoriver New Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    en el monu
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)


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  6. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)


    This Boca team can be coached by "remote control". Not with La Volpe's programming. :rolleyes: Any coach would play the team as before and keep beating everyone. And have the right subs to fill the injuries/refresh legs.

    So ... enjoy your win over La Volpe. ;)


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  7. Illrod3

    Illrod3 Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    According to Lavolpe it was "by helicopter". I guess now it has crashed. :D
    Correct me if I am wrong, but Boca has never won a tri-campeonato right?
     
  8. kevinucho

    kevinucho Member

    Mar 3, 2005
    L.A., CA
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    I really feel bad for boca fans. just everything about them... yes they win games but just the way they do, their stadium, their fans, palermo, etc is embarrasing. In "La Previa" on Fox Sports Espanol they were filming "La Doce" as they got to El Monumental. wow que verquenza! First off, of course, they were being escorted by the police in buses. okay nothing new. Second, it was pure descontrol...la doce was so nervous & scared that los borrachos were gonna steal their flags that i saw one of the leaders of La Doce punch a few of their own boca fans in the face for trying to walk in the stadium with la doce. i dont know if u guys saw it. it was hilarious. I lived in BA for six months and went to about 10-15 river games, home & away, with river/borrachos del tablon & i never saw anything like that. i wish they would just move boca to bolivia

    pobre palermo.... los pibes de river played with pure corazon y huevos..y la hinchada que se puede decir?!!! la mejor de Argentina.
     
  9. maxpepper

    maxpepper Member

    Jan 29, 2006
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    putting aside all the crap, are you guys as exited as I am? Looks like Argentina will have nice offensive power for the next 10 years.

    messi/tevez/aguero/higuain/saviola/palacio average = 21 years old :D

    si no ganamos uno de los proximos 2 mundiales me corto los huevos
     
  10. Illrod3

    Illrod3 Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Tratando de cambiar la conversacion? :D

    Te entiendo che, yo tambien quisiera cambiar la conversacion si fuera hincha del Bosta pero este es el foro de River vs. Bosta, no de la Seleccion.
     
  11. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    The gayinas should enjoy this win over LaVolpe as much as they can. You've accomplished a lot. Your now in first place with a game in hand. Oh no wait, thats BOCA I'm thinking about.
     
  12. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  13. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Que hinchada, dios mio!!

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  14. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  16. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  17. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  18. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    The pain of getting pwned twice in the last two Super Classico under Pasarella must hurt. Last one we nearly beat you 3-0 in La Bonbonera (1 goal, 1 hit post, 2 red cards given on breakaways), this one we could have beat you 6-1. I wish it was that to. :p
     
  19. leoriver

    leoriver New Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    en el monu
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    This my favorite.


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  20. Illrod3

    Illrod3 Member

    Jul 17, 2006
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Thanks for the video, its great. I just saw the Stones live last week too. :)
     
  21. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    More pics..

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  22. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  23. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  24. leoriver

    leoriver New Member

    Nov 29, 2003
    en el monu
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

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  25. baggio94

    baggio94 New Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Ubeda, Spain
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Re: River Plate vs. Boca Juniors - Fecha 10 (R)

    Was just in Buenos Aires a few weeks back, caught River Plate v Colon 1-1 draw.
     

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