News: Revs trade for the #1 pick in the draft

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by patfan1, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. MM66

    MM66 Member+

    Mar 9, 2009
    Brookline, MA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    That's both funny and true.
     
  2. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Revs would be foolish to trade Toja, now. I hope these are just wild speculations and not something they are actually thinking of doing.
     
  3. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I'd trade him before the Gillette turf makes his passing look like crap.
     
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  4. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. Everyone's in love with Toja apparently. If he was any good I'm sure Dallas would've kept him.
     
  5. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You say that as if Dallas waived him or something.

    Toja transferred to Europe because he was good, you do realize that, right?
     
  6. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    That's about as flawed a reasoning as you can get, and revisionist history as well.
     
  7. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes and he is back in MLS. With rare exceptions that usually means you're not very good. You do realize that right?
     
  8. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    That's not the case at all. Plenty of players return from Europe to MLS and are impact players.
     
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  9. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Yeah rare exceptions like:
    Landon Donovan
    Kenny Cooper
    Connor Casey
    Nat Borchers
    Ricardo Clarke
    Danny Califf
    Jay Demerritt
    Bakery Soumare
    Eddie Johnson
    Kamani Hill
    Marcus Hannemen

    So I take it you are going to take the same illogical hyperbolic view on Toja that you did on Benny last year. Good to know.
     
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  10. CottageRev

    CottageRev Member+

    Jun 13, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Toja was a 2-time All Star in the recent past (proven track record in MLS) and transferred to a UCL team in Romania, then went to one of Greece's top teams and was in their regular rotation. I'm guessing he left Aris due to Greece's economic freefall rather than a performance issue, and I imagine not too many other European teams were scouting UEFA backwaters that heavily to give him a satisfactory offer...so here he is.
     
  11. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    It's much easier to paint a baseless opinion though
     
  12. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Lee Nguyen technically didn't "return" to MLS, but he's another European reject who has performed well in MLS. I think your list is probably sufficient though.
     
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  13. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the back story. His most impressive club is pre-MLS with River Plate in Argentina, the rest eh. Maybe he's one of the aforementioned rare exceptions.
     
  14. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol How many is that? In context of the league, rare. Basic math...thanks for making my point!
     
  15. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Huh? How many players leave MLS for Europe and return? No many. The majority of players have returned to the league and been quality players during their second stint. Please, list all of the players who have returned and been ineffective. That list is definitely shorter.
     
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  16. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    that is like 80% of the guys who have returned in the last two years. So, in the context, using basic ********ing math...your point is totally inane.
     
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  17. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    He isn't moving to England. He is moving back to MLS. He doesn't need to be world class, or have played for world class teams, to be an effective player, in MLS. You want to tout context, try understanding it first. Do you actually watch games of soccer, or do you just look at the league table standings online, and search google and wikipedia?
     
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  18. ktsd

    ktsd Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Bethel, CT, USA
    I just hope at the end of the season we're not debating whether the team situation or the player himself made him SUCK with the Revs.

    C'mon Toja, Show us your stuff this season!

    Kevin D.
     
  19. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem is Kevin, if Toja fails here the common response will be along the lines of "Heaps sucks" or "it's the turf". It won't matter if there are other players that figure out a way to be successful, there is no such thing as accountability among some (not all, just some) revs fans. Get the excuses ready for Halloween when the Revs miss the playoffs again.
     
  20. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Do you intentionally take the most myopic view on player evaluation?
     
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  21. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what's Bob Kraft's kitten count this month?
     
  22. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    higher than your soccer IQ
     
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  23. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Enough, both of you.

    In regards to this discussion, I have no idea what to expect from Toja at this point. But thinking he's not going to be good just because he returned to MLS doesn't make sense to me.
     
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  24. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point. Doesn't make sense to me either.
     
  25. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    HAHA damn you trolled us good!
     
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