News: Revs, Revere "in final stages" of talks on Wonderland Stadium

On the satellite view, one corner of the Wonderland property seems to be a farm or a corn field. Its inclusion in the SSS property would mean a bit more parking (and tailgating). Revere Beach is not a good place for tailgating, but there is a huge, little-used lot on the other side of the blue line tracks (MBTA? City of Revere?) that might perhaps be available for use or rental for tailgating. I imagine Revere would want to encourage anything that would bring more people and money into town and that isn't going to mean more police problems for them. Hey, Revs fans generally don't behave like country music fans!

 

If we can fly to games like the Jetsons, it'll be even MORE convenient! Let's keep this in the here and now, rather than hypothetical 30 years down the road.

Those are some creative numbers. According to the US census site, the population of Essex, Middlesex, and Suffolk counties was estimated in 2011 to be about 3 million people. This is significant and represents the "Revere is Convenient to get to" population, based on your definition. I'm being generous here to include the metro west part of Middlesex west of 128, which is not really all that close to Revere.

Here's the discrepancy. Outside those 3 counties, the population of the rest of Massachusetts (points south and west of I-90, 128 and west of rt. 3), is almost 3.6 million, including Norfolk county which is in the vicinity of Gillette. Not sure where you get the 5 million from - but a chunk of those folks live south and/or west meaning Revere is a pain in the ass to get to.

Also, you mentioned Providence. If you want to include Rhode Island, add in another 1 million to the latter group, pushing the "Revere is Inconvenient to get to" population to 4.6 million vs the 3 million it's relatively convenient for. I did not include populations of Connecticut or NH/Maine which probably offset each other in terms of likely rev fans.

Like everyone, I hope they build a SSS close to Boston, but not in Revere.

 

Unless the stadium is in Assembly Square / Somerville and a great pub scene emerges around the field, a lack of a tailgate would be a major oversight in my opinion.

Having just a stadium without anything around it (for example see Chicago) would kill a lot of the social enjoyment of going to revs games for me.

 

I agree totally, but I do think that the Revere location would lend itself to tailgating and a bar scene. Plus, there will be a casino 10 minutes away on the newly refurbished roads! Remember, this is a flight of fancy, so all our dreams will come true.

 

Of course! We can expect millions (based on the numbers being thrown around) of passionate urban rev fans who have been hiding under rocks in downtown Boston all these years to suddenly materialize (T = FREEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMM) and care about MLS soccer, traveling in full voice via the suddenly convenient blue line to beautiful Revere Beach. Meanwhile, a vibrant bar scene will spring up around the stadium, Bell Circle won't be hell to drive through any longer, and beach traffic will be irrelevant for drivers (actually, who will drive! It's all about the T).

It's a wonderful dream, don't wake me up ever, please.

 

I've always felt that people have underestimated Mr Krafts interest in the Revs as part of his sports enterprise BUSINESS. It's been clear for over half the teams history that the franchise was not going to truly prosper business wise until it had a SSS in a better location. From a pure business standpoint, if I were Mr kraft I would not pull out the stops to market the team et al till I was ready to rebrand as part of opening the new stadium. Ex:Look at KC it did as a franchise before and after rebranding with the new stadium. IMO, and as a few others have posted above a core fan "Revolution Club" that would also serve as Hall Of Honors etc would just be another money making element.

 

It may not be relevant to you, but it is to a billionaire.

Worcester County is 50/50

Norfolk, Bristol (RI and MA), Plymouth, Newport, Providence, and Kent counties = 2.61 million

York (ME), Suffolk, Essex, MIddlesex, Rockingham, and Hillsborough = 3.9 million

Connecticut doesn't have any counties in the CSA, nor would I call it "Boston" sports territory. Its 50/50 Boston/NY at best.

 

If I was revere, Id demand that the krafts + the casino pay for the planned blue line extension to Lynn and the red-blue connector. Would solve most traffic problems.

 

What is the travel time from Boston by Horse (one if by land, two if by LMAO)...?

 

The lot is owned by the city, and it's not actually a lot. It's a street-hockey court (rink?). Over the winter they store the Lifeguard Towers there, unless we're talking about a different little-used plot of land

Revere wants you to come, sure, but we want you to come spend money. We don't want you to come, drink your own beer, grill your own food, and then come-and-go from the game.

 

I can see it now, horse meat road kill all along Rt. 1a from the sheer traffic volume.

 

What does 50/50 mean? You can't pick and choose your demographics. I included all of Worcester County and everyone in MA west (does west of Worcester not count?).

If you're pulling in NH and southern Maine, you need to also include northeast Connecticut which has a majority of Boston sports fans. It really doesn't change over to majority NY fans until you get south of New Haven.

 

Its an 1 hour 20 minute drive from north east CT to Revere. Its about 10-15 minutes less from the same area to Gillette. The differences in travel time are similarly small from most places in Worcester county, so I didn't include them. If you live south a Norwich, Gillette is closer, but you could practically count on one hand the number of Revs fans down there.

Also, Hartford is about equal in terms of travel times as well. At most, you're looking at another 5-10 minutes to Revere. With a 2 hour drive, 5 minutes doesn't really make a difference.

 

This is flat WRONG. KC improved as a franchise because of an ownership change. The Hunts sold KC to young and passionate owners who cared about making the team a serious professional sports franchise, not the joke it had been in years past. If you want an example of how the Hunts did their rebrand and SSS, just look at FC Dallas, one of the worst franchises in the league that had little to no bump from the SSS and rebranding. I'm afraid that the Krafts' involvement with the Revs will always be on the Hunts' level at best. This team is never g oing to be taken as seriously as it needs to be if while Bob Kraft is at the helm and he still owns his beloved Patriots. We need a dedicated ownership group who eats, sleeps, breathes New England Revolution soccer. We'll always be an afterthought, even with a SSS, rebranding, etc.

 

Jonathan Kraft is pretty young, isn't he?

 

You must add this to your post...And with all that mess that was the Wizards, Lamar Hunt really LOVED Soccer!

So imagine a rebrand/new marketing..err old marketing/communications(by one of the most worthless employees in MLS) at the hands of no other than pats Lover himself, Robert Kraft? I'm going to go hang on that precarious limb and say it won't be as success..LOL
Just keeping with my lack of optimism about this team...which, as each day passes feels less and less a team I want to defend any longer.

 

If I could rep a million times, I would.

 

yeah, so we are ********ed

 

You missed the word "easily"

 

Somerville MLS stadium on the site of the former proposed IKEA or the undeveloped area in Somerville will always be better than Revere.

 

The truth.

 

A stadium in Wonderland will always be better than a potential stadium. Even on Boston Common

 

You kill it, we grill it... now THAT would be a unique tailgating experience!

 

The rendering of the dead horse and the cooking isn't the problem: it's the eating.
Come to think of it much of what's been served up on this Board for the past four years is dead horse

 

A "farm" in Revere? LOL!