Republican/conservative economic theory proven wrong

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  1. puttputtfc

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    The Jam were a great band. I was too young to see them in concert but my oldest brother said they were great.
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    It takes balls to break a band up while they are at the top of their game.
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    Agreed. Much more eclectic and versatile than your typical new wave band from that era. I wish I'd seen them live, but I don't think they ever did Argentina. Bad timing I guess.
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    One likes to believe in the freedom of music... (and of trade).

    My experience over the past 20 years is that the next line applies to both. Maybe even more to the latter.
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  5. Matt in the Hat

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    Voting for either Obama or Romney is one of those endless comprimises.
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    At least we all revel in the glittering prize of BigSoccer nerdiness.
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    Funny, when you hear their rhetoric, Obama and Romney are poles apart, but when you compare Romney's legacy in Massachusetts to Obama's first term as president, they might as well be the same person. (Ok, maybe same person is a stretch, but close enough.)
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    But then the Republican Primaries happened. Both 2008 and 2012.
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    So what. It's pretty apparent that the sales pitch and the real world actions of both of these guys have very little to do with each other.
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    One big problem is that the things you need to promise to your base in order to have a chance to get elected often are very unrealistic.
  11. Barbara

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    It's almost like you're new to following politics.
  12. Matt in the Hat

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    I'm new to two major candidates having such eerily similar executive records yet claiming to be completely different.
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    Gosh, it's such a tough puzzle to figure out!

    If you don't use your brain.
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    I enjoy this shtick. Keep it up!
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    Right back at ya!
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    You mean that candidates don't have complete control over events and political realities after they are elected?
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    More like the reactions to those realities are very very similar.



    PS, please ignore the comments
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    Except Mitt used to be close to a centrist just a decade ago, you know, when he had pretty much formed his opinions on things at the ripe young age of 54. But in '08 and especially this year he's really trying hard to be something he's really not and the phoniness shows. More access to health care is good, Mitt! Maybe have the balls to explain that to yokels living in shacks with no teeth & diabetes who want you to start a 3rd war against the A-rabs.
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    Feckin' Eye-rain-ian A-rabs!
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    Ignore the comments? Why ruin all the fun?
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    Paul Ryan like kryptonite to seniors, most of who love them their Medicare. Ace move, Team Romney:

    According the Quinnipiac, Obama has seen a 17-point improvement among Florida voters 65-and-over since August, but only a 5-point improvement among those 50-64, and no change in his lead among those 18-49. His margin in Florida specifically on Medicare improved by 9 points among those 65-and-over, versus 7 points for the other two groups. (I'd argue that the reason seniors swung much more toward Obama on the first question than the second is that they're more likely to base their vote on Medicare. Or, put differently, no one likes the Ryan Medicare plan, but seniors are much more likely to vote according to that dislike.)

    http://www.tnr.com/blog/107829/47-was-bad-romney-ryan-has-been-deadly#
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    The GOPs are surprised that unpopular positions are unpopular.
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    He was getting booed and walked out on at the AARP convention like a Palestinian comic headlining at Grossinger's.
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    I could post this in about 5 different threads, but it seems most appropriate here.

    I hope it doesn't get lost. Basically, it's something pinko commies like me have been arguing for a while, namely, that too much income inequality is bad for economic growth. It's NOT just bad for "happiness" it's actively bad for economic growth.

    It's nice to see those dumb******** economists catch up to us historians.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/10/income-inequality-and-great-crash-2008
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    This is what Obama meant when he advised Joe the Plumber to "spread the wealth" in 2008. A reminder not to throw pearls under the feet of swine.

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