Renos to BMO

Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by TOFC/ARSENAL, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. BuffaloTF

    BuffaloTF Member

    Jun 19, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Qwest/CenturyLink is soccer specific and it's double that. This term gets confused with "soccer exclusive" far too often. It was built to soccers specifications; the crown of the field is 6 inches instead of 12, the walls are lower to bring the fans in closer for a more intimate experience, the corners are squared for improved sight and the ability to have full run ups on corners, it's wider to accommodate all IFAB field sizes instead of the typical narrow American football field, the gate revenues and concessions go to the team -- and it was sold to taxpayers as a soccer field the Seahawks could play on, attract an MLS team and future International matches... It was never a football field only that the Sounders got thrown on like the Meadowlands or Gillette.
     
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  2. Deleted User x

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    Mar 21, 2006
    #29 Deleted User x, Feb 1, 2014
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    This is all being done to get an NFL franchise. Not just for a winter classic. As soon as the rumors about MLSE buying the Argos and moving them to BMO came out there was talk of it leading to an NFL bid.
     
  3. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Can't wait for reno concept designs. On the topic of the NFL: Let's buy the Raiders.
     
  4. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The stadium is going to need to be a lot bigger than 30k for an NFL team.

    At any rate, NFL in Toronto is like Quebec separation, talk of it will never go away, but it'll never happen. Toronto should just accept the fact that it's in Canada and get on with life.
     
  5. Unak78

    Unak78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 17, 2007
    PSG & Enyimba FC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nigeria
    The concept seemed that the stadium upgrades are entirely separate from a future NFL bid. The way I read Lieweke's words is that maintaining a functioning and successful Argo's franchise was essential to a future NFL bid. So the stadium upgrades would indirectly help this. But ultimately a separate, NFL-ready stadium would be needed. I posted an article about that somewhere along those lines.
     
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  6. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
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    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  7. scarborotfcfan

    May 26, 2008
    This is exactly right. For perspective, the Rogers Center is considered too small for the NFL. BMO Field is definitely not the future home of an NFL team, simply a place for the Argos to have a better venue and chance for success which is conditional on any future NFL bid.
     
  8. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
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    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There will be no NFL team in the future so it is a moot point.
     
  9. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
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    Toronto FC
    Based on conversations with my friend who works at MLSE - an NFL team is a goal for the organization to own.

    There was a whole exercise to come up with names too FWIW.
     
  10. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Perhaps, but there are two big things going against it:

    1. The NFL has repeatedly said that they have no interest in becomign a cross border league (and perhaps they have some kind of agreement with the CFL to not do so)

    2. Attendance for the Bills games in Toronto has not demonstrated that Toronto has the fan base to support an NFL club.

    I think MLSE would do better to spend their money on some counselling for the people of Toronto along the line of "It's okay, you're a real city even if you don't have every big American thing."
     
  11. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  12. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Who would've thought, of all people, that Rob Ford would be the lone dissenter?
     
  13. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
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    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Ya, what are the odds? :laugh:
     
  14. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It is kind of surprising, seeing is that Ford is known for throwing his pennypinching ways out the window when it comes to his two pet issues, i.e. subways and gridiron football. Perhaps his hate for soccer (which to be fair I've never heard him say that he does, but given what we know about the man it is quite likely) outweighs his love of football. Or maybe he just hates the Argos for not being NFL.
     
  15. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Since council removed most of his powers, he has consistently voted against things....particularly where the things need city money....he is positioning himself as the one that votes against spending taxpayer money and trying to show that since he lost his powers council has returned to its overspending ways.
     
  16. Scrabbleship

    Scrabbleship Member

    May 24, 2012
    You forgot probably the biggest thing:

    #3: A corporation isn't allowed to own an NFL team.
     
  17. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    How did the reno conference for STH go?
     
  18. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
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    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Interesting tweet from Neil Davidson of the Canadian Press:

    #torontoFC will not play home games until May 1 in 2015 and 2016 seasons due to construction if renovation plan goes thru.
     
  19. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I'm down. It never made any sense why we would play so many home games in March/April/May then go play Western conference games in the summer and have 1-2 home games a month in June/July.
     
  20. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It's because in cities with attendance issues, they get better attendance in the summer months, so they try to maximize those. TFC hasn't had attendance problems so they get most of their games during the poor-weather months.
     
  21. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    You have to think the BMO field will be used for something during the pan-am games. That'll make for some bizarre scheduling during 2015.
     
  22. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
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    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I think it's safe to say that EVERY TFC schedule from Year 1 has been bizarre in its own way.
     

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