Post-match: Real Madrid CF vs Olympique Lyonnais|UEFA CL- Round of 16| 3.10.10 [R] PART TWO

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  1. Eddie Member+

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    The title by Marca: Adios Champions, Adios Pellegrini!, just shows how much they hate Pellegrini and how much pressure they've put on him during this whole season.

    They can go ******** themselves, let's hope Spain crashes out of WC10 so they don't have anything to brag about anymore.
          
  2. cr9kaka8 New Member

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    Marca should poke fun. We all are!
  3. kosovanwhizkid New Member

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    We have to keep Pellegrini, he is a good coach but needs to understand his mistakes. There isn't anyone out there that can take us out of this mess. Keep the team the same next season, keep Pellegrini and we should all forget about the 20th century, take all that crap about us being the best from the Realmadrid.com website and set our players minds at ease and not make them feel like they have to compete with Di Stefano
  4. Madrid_1902 Member+

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    We should have finnished the tie in the first half. We completely controlled the game and created lots of good chances. But the team that came out in the second half didn't have the same mentral strength of the one in the first. They just could not settle and we were immediately on the back foot. I'm going to under mine Peul's changes -- we lacked serious belief. In fact, we were resorting to the counter attack; amazingly it nearly paid off with the Kaka break ( our only chance in the second half? ).

    I spoke of the need to show patience before the game and remain calm but the team became more and more nervous. The sloppy, individual mistakes were there for everyone to see. There was a 5 minute spell where most of our players were struggling to make 5 yard passes! The crowd became increasingly anxious and Lyon simultaneously grew in confidence and stature. We should have continued to pass the ball around, tire them and find the breakthrough.

    It was ridiculous how we resorted to counter attacking. I've been impressed with Albiol, Garay and Arbelo this season but there are still defensive frailties. Not necessarily with the personel but the organisation. I think thats where we're missing Pepe a lot. He was the master of covering up for others mistakes and we're missing him dearly. Particuarly for when he covers for Ramos, who more often than not, is not where he is suppossed to be. He always seems eratic in these big games.

    Higuain will undoubtedly be made the scapegoat for this but I think those misses stress the fine line between defeat and victory. Had we gone on to win the game in the second half then no-one would be complaining. I can understand the frustration but it does emphasize how fickle we can be. Higuain has been a monster for us at times. Yes, they were bad misses but I can't accept this Champions League theory that people are berating him with. In the seconds he had for each chance I'm sure his mind wasn't saying," uh oh, it's the Champions League, I can't score." Instead of saying he missed those chances because it was a CL game, I'm more inclined to say that he is perhaps entering a bad spell, which unfortunatley coincides with such a massive game. It happens to every striker -- you can't possibly maintain a ratio of a goal every 0.75 minutes.

    Hard to sum up "what next". Because we should have buried those chances and gone through. No doubt a potential La Liga title -- still a massive coup seeing as were competing with the best Barcelona in history -- will not save MP. And maybe it shouldn't, so I guess that indebts another poor soul, with perhaps another 8 or 9 new players, to bring us the immediate success that we crave through divine right.

    I am pissed off, by the way. But there is no doubt that in the first 45 minutes Real Madrid proved they are a superior team to Lyon. But that, seemingly, shall only suffice for lesser competition in La Liga.
  5. russian hattie Member

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    I think that's a good point. They were under tremendous pressure here, with all the money the was spent, with the final being held at the Bernabeu, and Marca didn't help a thing.

    You could see there was a lot of nervousness on the pitch, a lot of fear. It's easy for Perez to spend all his money, and then sit in his box and expect... it's disgusting. I hope he gives this whole team time. They are capable of some beautiful football.
  6. beautifulfootball Red Card

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    But this game really showed why marcelo is such an asset going forward that is as i find him way better than stupid ramos who cannot cross a damn ball and always loses his marker as he did in the first half and on the goal.

    Alonso was missed as guti couldn't do all by himself but also benzema with his better holding and team play would have brought people a lot into the game as gonzalo can only play well with space to run into but also lacks the intelligence needed to make space for his team mates to run into.

    But it is his selfishness that really did the trick today as if he didn't score then no one else would as he pretty went into hiding and stop showing himself for the ball and played like a baby scared of being kicked,people can knock on kaka but at least he was trying.
  7. Jorge Campos New Member

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    They just said on Radio Marca, that Kaka's wife has been posting really bad things on twitter about Pellegrini, because he took out kaka. Don't know if it's true.
  8. Jehuisthere New Member

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    The OP used the example of Man U firing SAF after they got knocked out in 2005, at which point he had won many many trophies, hence my post...but tks for coming out. ;)
  9. russian hattie Member

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    Lol. They love Jesus so much... forgive him?
  10. cr9kaka8 New Member

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    You really think Mourinho couldn't deal with these bunch of ego-tistic pricks? Hell even Perez would bend over for him knowing just how serious of a manager he is

    You get what you see with Mourinho and he will take you by neck if you piss with him.

    He did it at Chelsea and he is doing it at Inter

    You see his tactics against Chelsea? Spot on!

    I would have him and if he is good enough for Man U to want him to succeed SAF, then he should be good enough for us and enough to all this bollox about ze beautiful football. Times have changed and we cannot play how we do. We suck at possession football and were a counter attack team. End off.
  11. saaj07 New Member

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    such a disappointment after we started off with a bang...
    Higuain has yet to prove his worth..he simply screws up in big matches...if he had put away his chances..we wouldve crusied to the quarters with a 4-1 aggregate.....i think we need to take some tough decisions...i think David Villa should be a priority next season...we cant take a chance on big matches...pellegrinni,..hmmm..its a tough one...on the one hand...the school of thought points to barca and the season when they bought ronnie and co and rijkaard and how they lost to chelsea in the last 16.and possibly thats what pellegrini needs, for us to stick with him.......
    but on the other hand the question goes...does he have the character to handle big matches, the mind games etc associaed with it...will mourinho's availability be too hard to resist?
  12. Juanele Member

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    This:

  13. Eddie Member+

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    It's the firing of coaches and replacing of players that has brought us here.
  14. Shay Z Moderator

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    kaka looked extremely pissed when he was taken off.

    Poor Manny, he's a nice guy but he's really gonna get a lot of insults in the next few days.
  15. babai_here Member

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    Stop posting Twitter S**t. :p
  16. Eddie Member+

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    The only thing i'd say to Kaka's wife would be: TITS OR STFU.
  17. MajorDuh New Member

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    Not all of us are making fun of the team. Nor are all of us over-reacting, like MARCA. I've mentioned this several times, but a team made of over 50% new players, with a new coach, and heavy pressure of the CL final at The Bernabeu isn't exactly a recipe for success.

    It's not just Higuain who is at fault for today's debaucle. Nor is it Pellegrini alone. Ronaldo went missing for much of the second half and missed two free kicks in advantageous areas, Kaka took bad shots, oddly enough it was Guti post-match who said "we stopped playing as a team and became a bunch of individuals."

    Sure sign of a green team.
  18. cr9kaka8 New Member

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    Replacing of coaches are not to blame anymore. There needs to be common sense in the setup you put out. When Lyon changed formation in the second half, MP did not do a thing to counter that and the players fell apart.

    Mourinho would not have put up with the lack of effort shown in the 2nd half and he would of flamed them standing on the touchline.

    The players went in at half time thinking it was won and MP job should of told them NO
  19. Eddie Member+

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    Oh STFU please, Mourinho wouldn't survive for 6 months here. If Marca/Management wouldn't pressure him, the fans would for his boring tactics.

    Capello is a much better coach then Mourinho and he didn't survive here.
  20. babai_here Member

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    Can you please post the Post-match interviews?
  21. cr9kaka8 New Member

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    At the end of the day, he is a manager that gets the job done. We all like to play with the prettiest type of play but its got us nowhere in europe.

    If you really think Mourinho is shit or boring, then fine. I would have him just because of his sheer tactical sense!
  22. osnap427 Member

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    After the game today, i must say i am extremely disappointed in this team.

    not because of the 250ME that some asshats like to poke fun at.

    not at higuain for not finishing 2-3 clear chances.

    i must say what i've been disappointed with is the overall management of this team. that goes for the sporting director as well as the manager.

    after RVN left we must have known we needed another striker and it might have come down to no strikers being readily available but the difference another striker could have made could've changed the outcome of this game. sure, usually we could've counted upon benzema in this situation but injuries happen and when all you have left is Raul, another option certainly wouldve been fantastic. nothing against raul here but his lack of speed and creativity outside the box really hurt us i feel, some traits another striker couldve possessed to help shape the game in our favor.

    this dilemma left pellegrini with limited bench options. surely he knew that giving up a goal was a possibility if not a certainty and our only real impact sub on the bench was VdV.

    i think when pellegrini has more time with this team and more reliable players on that bench then we can really make significant progress. the only thing i think he's doing wrong is really not motivating the players enough. the captains can only be counted upon so much to inspire their team and eventually it comes down to the manager to do so.
  23. babai_here Member

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    After this match I will accept boring football than losing at pre-quarter finals.

    Anyway MP should get more time.
    Even me also appealed for Morinho but I believe MP should get this year at least.

    But seriously we need a LB and a good striker this year for sure.
    And please stop bashing Pipita,he missed two chances but its not like others played beautifully but due to him we lose only.
  24. Suyuntuy Member+

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    I hope Manny forgets about this, focuses on only reading reports about the quake in his country, doesn't ever bother with AS or Marca or our fan forums, and sticks to his original plan.

    Whom was he supposed to bring in at the second half? Dudek? Look at the bench. Half of our players were out of commission with injuries!
  25. Jorge Campos New Member

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    Valdano just stated that Pellegrini will continue as Real Madrid's coach, so I guess no firing.
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