Radamel Falcao - news & comments

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Uzuriaga, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    La mayoría de veces los jugadores juegan sin estar al 100 %.....eso no refleja que jueguen como troncos
    man Diego osorio , havent watched falcaos knee.......noronha is his doctor, he iniesta The real evolución

    The numbers of bacca, Ramos , jackson etc with The nt are very bad ( and when i say numbers I refer to games played and goals ) ...so I will sacrifice one of them if I have the possibility ..
     
  2. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    All this is good but then why we have a bench?
    Aren't everyone saying on how Colombia have so many strikers?
    Netherlands had to use Robben because they didn't had a proper replacement for the guy.
    Spain problem has been in the striker position (that's why Torres was used regardless of his poor form and why Diego Costa is being Nationalised)
    But we have respected players in their own positions
    I'm pretty sure if Jackson was portugese he would be in the Portugal NT
    And after this season I can see Bacca considered for the Spanish NT if he were from spain
     
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  3. Bombay

    Bombay Member

    Apr 6, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    There are not many NT's in the world who wouldn't have Bacca or Jackson as their striker.
     
  4. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    de acuerdo, son grandes jugadores y que todos desearian tener..........pero como problema inherente de la mentalidad del jugador, parece que se ponen mas nervioso de lo debido con la seleccion

    es como cuando, defiendo a teo........todos dicen que es cuestion de tiempo que jackson lo reemplaze y empieze a meter goles por que es goleador y los mete en europa (y si les olvida que jakcson ha jugado bastante en el 2013)......pero el futbol no es tan de logica

    por ejemplo ramos tiene 22 partidos con la seleccion y solo 2 goles........
     
  5. HomietheClown

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    The emergence of Ibarbo also has to be taken into account within the discussion. He adds a different dimension and I believe can lift up the games of the other strikers like Jackson, Bacca, etc. if he starts. Not saying he will start but right now he has as good a chance as anybody.
    I would not mind seeing Jackson and Ibarbo up front.
     
  6. Bombay

    Bombay Member

    Apr 6, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But if it wasn't for this new generation and Pekerman, Falcao wouldn't have more than 2 goals.
     
  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    these players have played too with this NT and with pekerman, and have failed in what they know......falcao was the top scorer with bolillo (with more than 2 goals, despite the difficults, with pinto in the first match he started he scored against montenegreo) .and with more than two goals........is true that with pekerman falcao have improved, but with leonel and bolillo, he was the most outstanding player
    but ibarbo is not 9 or pure forward........surely he will go, but like the espn reporter said today in inter match....he will take a spot for a mdfielder instead..........
     
  8. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
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    I did not say Ibarbo is a number 9 or pure forward. I am saying he can help a guy like Jackson if Jackson starts as the #9. Or any other player who starts as #9. He changes the way the team plays with his style.
     
  9. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    La cuestion de Teo esque Teo no viene de una lesion y en esos tiempos Pekerman estaba mas concentrado en buscar una base que otra cosa.
    Lo mas importante que tiene que hacer cualquier seleccion del mundo es buscar una base y despues de tener una base definida; buscar variantes y lo 2ndo es lo que ha venido haciendo Pekerman de un tiempo para aca.

    Si la camisa de la seleccion pone una presion adicional ademas el hecho de ser Copa del Mundo pone mas presion, pero es cuestion de el tecnico influenciarlos de la mejor forma para mejorar su desempeno, mira al Atletico de Madrid, han estado cargando con esa presion desde mucho tiempo y no han aflojado; el cholo los tiene bien alimentados con pura confianza, de la misma forma Pekerman puede decirle a Jackson y Bacca que esta es su oportunidad de demostrarle al mundo que Colombia tiene otros delanteros aparte de Falcao.

    No estamos en el 98 cuando la banca del Tino Asprilla era Leider Presiado y el Calvo Velez le daba charla tecnica al Bolillo.

    Estoy seguro que esa es una de las preguntas de Pekerman, empesar con Falcao asi sea bajo de nivel o dejarlo descansar y poner a Bacca/Jackson, y la decision que el tome yo la respeto; porque seria ridiculo de mi parte ponerme a cuestionar a un tipo que con hechos a demostrado que sabe; si fuera Bolillo ya estuviera mentandole la madre :ROFLMAO:
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    si yo estoy de acuerdo, con lo de la lesion y eso que son casos diferentes.......pero decir y confiarse, que bacca y jackson van a meter goles cuando no los han hecho solo por que funcionan en sus clubes se me hace peligroso............osea, cuando han estado han rendido como si estuvieron “lesionados“ .....si falcao tiene la posibilidad de ir, tiene que ir por que con teo son los unicos que han desmostrados desde el 2011 (proceso leonel) que son los que no se les niega con la selecccion (seguro es cuestion de madurez mental)

    yo estaria tranquilo....si jackson y bacca la hubieran metido cuando tuvieron SUS (plural) oportunidades .......pero no lo hicieron.
     
  11. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Officer let me borrow his computer with internet access so I thought I'd stop by to say what's up.

    I can't believe Pepino is the only one defending the idea of taking Falcao........ I agree that Falcao might be a shell of his former great self, but he is still worth the risk. Would Portugal leave Ronaldo off the WC? Would Argentina leave a Messi at home? The fact is, Falcao is a DIFFERENCE MAKER and if there is any chance that he can be close to what he was when healthy, you take him. Jackson, Bacca, Ramos are all nice, but they have not been as impactful as Falcao has been and it is a big step down. You also have to consider Falcao's leadership, chemistry with the team, and big game experience.

    I am not saying he should start right away, but if he can play, you take him. There is no question about it. You take your best player and hope with several weeks of training with the team, he can regain his form. If he doesn't, he doesn't, but it is certainly worth the risk....Especially since you do have quality strikers to back him up if it doesn't work out with Falcao.

    I am a big fan of Muriel and Ramos, but I would leave one of them or both and give Falcao a chance.

    Anyways, we all know that Pekerman is too loyal and would not leave him at home if he was cleared to and wanted to play.
     
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  12. Bombay

    Bombay Member

    Apr 6, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But if you turn this upside down, what if Jackson or Bacca were the first choice and Falcao a sub - would Falcao have impressed the way he now has? No one knows the answer. Jackson has been a bit unlucky and sometimes he's been bad but I don't think he has been given a really good chance yet. Bacca has barely played at all. It's very rare a player adapts immediately in the team. The only ones that have recently impressed me from the first second are Ibarbo and Arias.
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    I am on the fence which is why I said it can go either way 50-50.
    Falcao himself saying he won't play unless he is 100% is not really encouraging to me. I don't know if he will ever be 100% if you want to get philosophical or technical about the situation. :p
     
  14. Bombay

    Bombay Member

    Apr 6, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nice to hear from you J-Mezzy. Falcao really makes the difference but only when he is fit. He is also human. Falcao playing with a broken knee is like surfing on porn sites with 56k. It's doable but hardly worth it.
     
  15. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #1640 pepinointer, Apr 19, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2014
    que? Falcao es titular es por lo que ha hecho en su carrera....no es que pekerman le regalo la titular y lo decidio arbirtariamente, hasta la ultima temporada desde la 2009-2010 hasta las 2012-2013, fue el jugador con mas goles en europa solo despues de cr7 y messi durante 4 temporadas!!!! .........osea uno no hace casos hipoteticos asi, por que si.....por que si falcao es titular y los otros son suplente no es cuestion de casualidad


    y ya con el cuentico de oportunidades.......tuvieron opiortunididades contra rivales vulnerables de titulares, paraguay, tunez, belgica (muriel) , serbia, y no fueron capaz de meter un gol!!!! las oportunidades no consisten en ser equivalente a los titulares, ademas sin contar los partidos que entraron como suplentes........que con ese cuento tambien quieren sacar a teo de la titular

    repito yo estaria tranquilo si ellos hubieran hecho algo....pero no!! y el futbol no funciona como un silogismo, donde se reemplaza x por y (x es igual de bueno que n en su club) e inercia.
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ant the other guys havent make the difference yet being fit..........the DOCTOR SAID he will be fit, just not i n his best form.....but i repeat not all players will be in th 100 % in a tournament at the end of the season.....
     
  17. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    If he is broken, he won't go. If he is cleared and feels ready to play, he will and should go. He is our star and again, worth the risk of taking him.

    If he is not good enough to start, you leave him on the bench but I don't see any scenario where we should leave him if he feels ready to play.

    He is a great player and sometimes you take your chances with players of that caliber.

    Man, I wish I had full access to internet. I missed this site and you clowns a lot.
     
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  18. Bombay

    Bombay Member

    Apr 6, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The point is not how Falcao got his position as our number one striker. What I'm saying is he is the only one that has gotten a fair chance under Pekerman and that's the era that counts. I don't want to go way back with this. And if you look at Falcaos numbers in the qualifiers, they are not that spectacular, without the penalties he has only 6 goals. Do you think Jackson or Bacca couldn't have reached those numbers?

    In short: Falcao is the best striker we have, but he is not fit. Jackson and Bacca are good strikers, maybe they haven't scored many goals yet but then again they havent been given a fair chance. The minutes they have gotten are not enough to judge them IMO.
     
  19. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    mas que todo porque antes el foco no era hacer funcionar la banca, el foco de Pekerman ahora es hacer funcionar la banca y por ejemplo el nivel de Bacca es superior al de hace un ano atras.

    Porque algo no funcionaba antes no quiere decir que hoy no funcione, especialmente cuando se estan intentando cosas diferentes y nuevos elementos (ya se exploro jugar con 1 delantero y Ibarbo es un elemento que lo veo titular y para mi Jackson es mejor como delantero solo y el medio jugando para el)

    que pasaria si Bacca marca la diferencia contra el Valencia (como lo hizo contra el Porto) y se nos inspira en la final vs la Juve??El futbol es de procesos pero tambien es de momentos, Bacca ha hecho parte del proceso y viene en un gran nivel.
    Ahora todo es pura especulacion, Falcao se puede recuperar y jugar como si nada su primer partido (que precisamente el esta trabajando duro para no estar tan bajo de nivel despues de la recuperacion).

    Lo bueno esque vienen dos amistosos y vamos a poder ver que plan alterno tiene Pekerman
     
  20. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #1645 pepinointer, Apr 19, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2014
    9 goles en serio??? aprende un poquito de la historia de nuestro futbol, antes de subestimar cualquier logro.....nunca en unas eliminatorias!!! ( y habiamos ido a 4 mundiales) antes un jugador colombiano habia metido mas goles que falcao en unas elimiantorias, el record era asprilla con 7!.... penales?? los que no le dejan cobrar en sevilla ni en porto a bacca ni a jackson??? esos tambien valen, por eso tambien teo con 6 hizo muchos goles en compracion a NUESTRA HISTORIA .........se me olvida que aca pinesan que somos una super potencia

    que es una fair oportunity? jugar el mismo tiempo que el titular??? falcao en sus primeros 10 minutos de juego en la paz metio un gol.....en el 4 partido de titular (peru, ecuador, chile y uruguay), lllevaba 3 goles y una asistencia y teo en su cuarto partido en elimiantoria...llevaba 3 goles y una asistencia (bolivia, uruguay chile, venezuela)......jackson tuvo 4 partidos de titular en eliminatorias (venezuela, argentina, paraguay, argentina), y lo metieorn en otros partidos mas que los 10 minutos que falcao le bastaron para meter su primer gol en la paz..... y ningun gol y ninguna asistencia............sin contar los amistosos, donde falcao tambien marco mas la diferencia que jackson y bacca (que buenisimos goles contra la c de camerun y contra guatemala)
     
  21. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @J-Mezzy hey bro whats up!
    nobody is arguing in Falcao not going to the world cup, Im pretty sure he will go; the question will be under what circumstances he should start or not
     
  22. HomietheClown

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    I am kinda arguing it. But not whole wholeheartedly. :D
     
  23. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    tu no.....pero otros que ni respetan historia si lo hacen.
     
  24. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
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    Junior Barranquilla
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    Colombia
    bring it!

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  25. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Well, I don't know if he should start. That depends on too many variables, especailly his health. Para mi es indiscutible que debe ir asi sea de banquero. Un jugador de esa categoria no se deja en csa si esta fisicamente listo para jugar y quiere jugar. Ahora, si demuestra mala forma en practica y en las concentraciones, no tengo ningun problema con ejar a Jackon o Bacc de titular. Pero que merece una oportunidad es indiscutible basado en su talento, su experiencia, liderazgo, y por lo que ha demostrado en partidos importantes con la seleccion y con su club.

    Yo digo que merece que lo lleven y por lo menos le den chance de peliar por su titularidad.
     

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