Radamel Falcao Garcia (r)

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  1. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
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    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia [R]

    Falcao se vindico con un partidazo! Marco el gol determinante y le taparon una palomita que hubiera sido gol.

    Segun Riverplate.com fue de los mejores de la cancha:

    Falcao Garcia (7): Voluntad y esfuerzo son dos palabras que el Colombiano conoce muy bien y aplica partido a partido. Es uno de los jugadores que mas corre y siempre la pide. Le hicieron el penal, tuvo una palomita que tapo Villar, y para cerrar la tarde metio del 2 a 0. Buena actuacion.

    Mejor forma no hay en que llegar a la seleccion!
     
  2. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
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    Colombia
    Re: Colombianos en Argentina - 2006/07 update

    Que bien por el pibe! Dale Falcao!

    Mr. Paisa - eres profeta, por favor danos otrita antes del partido con Peru!
     
  3. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
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    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia [R]

    Para Ole fue el mejor del encuentro con Newell's:

    R. Falcao (7,5): Peleó todas y generó espacios. Astuto para arrojarse en el anticipo goleador.

    Ademas tienen una nota escrita por Radamel Garcia (padre) sobre la reaccion de Falcao a su tarde triste este domingo:

    00:00 | RIVER: YO DIGO
    Se lo merece por sacrificio

    RADAMEL GARCIA. Papá de Falcao.

    Como padre, me pone muy contento este presente de Radamel, porque sé como nadie todo lo que sufrió. Después de lo que le tocó vivir con las lesiones, paulatinamente fue adquiriendo todos los movimientos, su forma física y va acercándose a su nivel. Se lo merece, por el sacrificio que hizo.

    Cuando el gol no llegaba y lo notaba un poco ansioso, le decía que no se preocupara, que es algo normal, que ocurre lo mismo con los delanteros de nivel. En la época en que yo jugaba en Colombia, llegó Juan Gilberto Funes, un atacante muy importante en la historia de River, y estuvo seis meses sin hacer un gol. El tema es que después del primero, entran todos. Te pega en la cola, en la espalda, en la rodilla, en cualquier parte y adentro. Lo fundamental es que Radamel siempre generó las ocasiones y ahora que empezó a anotar, seguramente lo hará en serie.
     
  4. yj777

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: Colombianos en Argentina - 2006/07 update

    esa es la gran diferencia entre los grandes y los enanos que se creen mejores que Messi :p

    Falcao sabia que tenia que meter un gol hoy porque si no se iba a la banca, y lo hizo..
    ojala meta goles el sabado
     
  5. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Radamel Falcao Garcia [R]

    bno este es el post del goleador de las eliminatorias del 2010
     
  6. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    falcao llego lesionado a river despues d ejugar con colombia parce q solo es una contractura en el muslo izquierdo ojala este para contra brazil
     
  7. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
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    Colombia
    Re: Colombianos en Argentina - 2006/07 update

    Falcao no juega hoy. Volvio de Colombia con contractura en un muslo y lo descansaran para el partido de Copa del Miercoles con Botafogo.
     
  8. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
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    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    Segun Ole juega el Miercoles contra Botafogo. Es una lesion que se resuelve con solo dias de reposo y por eso lo descansan hoy.
     
  9. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
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    Re: Colombianos en Argentina - 2006/07 update

    sucks.. me iba a ver River Lanus solo para verlo jugar..
     
  10. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    La comparacion de JPA con Falcao la hice considerando el tiempo en que debutaron en River, el ascenso de JPA en River fue mucho mas rapido.
    JPA hizo mas goles en River en su corta estadia en River que Falcao, (sin contar el tiempo de su lesion)

    Otra cosa que hay considerar es que Falcao comenzo en las menores de River desde que tenia 16 agnos.. y por favor no me digas que algun equipo en Colombia tiene un programa de divisiones inferiores como el de River.. ahi se han hecho algunos de los mejores jugadores del mundo.

    Falcao es muy buen jugador, pero despues de haberlos visto jugar a los dos, JPA fue y es un jugador superior, y te apuesto que en su carrera Falcao no llegara tan lejos como Angel.

    Por Dios, si Angel metio 60+ goles en la liga Inglesa.. y ni siquiera Tevez que juega en un equipo mucho mejor ha podido meter un gol todavia..
     
  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    falcao no es q s elesione mucho...yo creo q eso le pasaria todos si fueran con esas huevas por cada pelota
     
  12. ryu79

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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    Erroneous.

    JPA was considered a huge flop when he first arrived at River, and if anything, people that actually follow his career laud him for his ability to overcome what he endured when he first arrived there. It took him several seasons there to win over the fans, and his stay at River was not short as you make it out to be.

    Again, I'm a huge fan of Juan Pablo's, and have followed his career across Argentina and England very closely (as folks who follow Villa online will vouch!), but Falcao is too young and hasn't had enough time to be compared with him. You're "bet" that he won't go as far as Angel is pure conjecture. I think we can all agree that at 21, JPA barely a starter at Nacional was not the player that Falcao (River starter since the age of 19) is at 21. That doesn't mean Falcao will accomplish more than JPA going forward, but its certainly warrants giving him a shot rather than betting against him as you do above.

    Finally, and though its off topic, you've made a few assertions that Tevez is a flop in England. This is ridiculous. He is creditted with singlehandedly keeping West Ham in the prem last year and its because of the high regard the prem has for him that his transfer dealings have caused so much controversy - there are literally clubs in the second division that have tried to SUE West Ham for the damages caused by their having been able to sign Tevez. He may not have scored yet for Man U, but they are doing just fine and when he finds his touch this season you can be sure he'll be idolized there as well. Every account I've read or match I've seen him play for them this year (sample of 2) he's looked sharp despite the lack of scoring (he had one teammate tip in a goal that would have been his in his second match anyway).
     
  13. GavoCol

    GavoCol Member

    May 12, 2007
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    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    Yo creo que no deveria haber jugado los 2 partidos amistosos con la seleccion, pudo haber jugado contra peru, el partido completo o la mitad no se, y despues devolverse a Argentina, porque esta peleando el puesto en la titularidad, y Alexis Sanchez acaba de meter un gol en river, y hay muy buenos delanteros.

    Va a ser dificil que Falcao se gane la titularidad
     
  14. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
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    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    Veremos. Recordemos que Sanchez es mediapunta, y que ademas Ruben viene sin efectividad.

    Ojala Falcao sigue en la delantera y mejorando cada vez. Lo bueno es que River estara jugando los dos torneos y necesitara jugadores.
     
  15. yj777

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Pablo_Ángel

    JPA played for THREE YEARS in River and scored 43 goals.
    I guess it didn't take him "several seasons" to win over fans unless he scored 40+ goals in his last year in River... if he was such a "huge" flop at first he wouldn't have even lasted a single year there.. specially in River.

    Falcao has already played for close to three years in River, and although he has been injured for a good period of time, when he completes three years of playing time in River i can assure you, he is NOT going to score a total of 43 goals and it is very unlikely that he is going to be sold to England's Premier League for 9+ million pounds..

    Why even argue this??, Falcao is good, but not in the same category as JPA, the numbers speak for themselves.. it is obvious..

    The way things stand right now, Falcao may not even be the starter anymore if Alexis Sánchez keeps on playing so well..

    As a matter of fact, Arzuaga in less than a year in Argentina has already scored as many goals as Falcao, playing for some really weak teams, i don't see anyone clamoring that he should be called to the NT, but me....

    If you are sooo sure my predictions are nonsense, i am willing to bet you money that after 3 years of playing time Falcao won't score more than 43 goals and won't be sold to the English Premier League..

    I have nothing against personal against him, it is a matter that can be easily observed.. he is not on the same league as Angel.. simple as that.
    Ask any River fan..

    Please quote any of my messages where i said that.
    I just said that Tevez has yet to score any goals in the Premier League this season.. which is true, isn't it?

    I wrote this to highlight the fact that is it not that easy to score 60+ goals in the Premier League, nothing else.
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    el unico confirmado para juagr el miercoles contra botafogo es falcao
     
  17. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008


    excelente!, ojala la meta, porque si no le va bien a Falcao en este mes con River, Pinto nos encartara con Troncallega en la seleccion otra vez :(
     
  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    pero por q ..............si lo convocaron y respondio con gol..por q su presencia esta en duda?
     
  19. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
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    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    porque a pinto le brillan los ojos cuando ve a rodallega corriendo :rolleyes: el jura que es el tino asprilla con trensas
     
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    America de Cali
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    Colombia
    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    Its amazing how arrogant your responses are when everyone on this forum knows that JPA DID struggle early on at River, here are the stats year by year (from his profile on nyredbulls.com). The numbers show that the only thing obvious here is that you are wrong. You'll note that 1997-2000 is 4 years according to simple arithmetic and that each of the years in Argentina is essentially two seasons (so JPA played 8 seasons at River Plate):

    2000-01: Scored 13 goals for River Plate before being transferred to Aston Villa of the EPL, where he scored one goal in his first 9 contests.

    1999-00: Enjoyed his best season while with River Plate, scoring 19 goals in 34 matches.

    1998-99: Registered 11 goals in 27 matches for River Plate.

    1997-1998: Scored two goals in 12 games after transferring to River Plate in Argentina.

    At this point, Falcao has played three years at River (though missing what amounts to two seasons to injury - so after three years he's played less games than JPA did in his first two). If you compare game for game: Falcao has scored 13 goals in his first 34 games. JPA scored 13 goals in his first 39 games at River. Be amazed to find that Falcao has scored at a higher rate than Juan Pablo did at River upon first arrival over similar periods despite spending the bulk of his appearances recovering from his ACL injury in 2006.

    Falcao has not accomplished what JPA has yet, but then JPA's got a lot of years on him. According to their stats Falcao's actually ahead, and you should add to that that Falcao has done so by the age of 21, while JPA was 25 by the time he'd played 34 games at River. JPA had the advantage of starting at a major club before ever stepping foot in el Monumental.

    BTW, I never said your predictions are nonsense - I said its conjecture and certainly not anything that should be used as support in an argument. Conjecture that seems poorly based since you seem to be under the incorrect assumptions that JPA had scored more than Falcao at the comparative stages of their career at River.

    Also, you should read more before making such assertions on Arzuaga. You're certainly not alone in your suggestion that he should be called to the national side based on his recent performances. If you follow the threads on Pinto's call ups since the pre-Copa friendlies you'll see that myself and several of the folks you've been insulting on here have been asking that he get a shot for ages.

    On Tevez, if your point is to use Tevez as an example of how hard it is to score in England, than you are trying to point out how hard it is to succeed there - but Tevez HASN'T had trouble succeeding in England.
     
  21. yj777

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    yo no creo que su convocatoria este en duda, pero no me extrañaria si Pinto convoca a Troncallega si hace mas goles (cosa que dudo mucho, de todas maneras cruzen los dedos :D)..

    La sola convocacion de Troncallega es motivo para poner nervioso a cualquier hincha de la seleccion.. especialmente si Falcao o Renteria se llegaran a lesionar.. a quien pondria?

    Como no esta el Toro Arzuaga, ni Edixon Perea, los unicos que quedan son Dayro y Troncallega.. :eek:
     
  22. yj777

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
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    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    ok, i stand corrected, i would say he did struggle during 1997-98
    but if you do a little math, his goal average per game on the following four seasons is not so bad... roughly a goal every two games is not exactly struggling.

    1998-99: 0.40
    1999-00: 0.55

    This is where we don't agree, Falcao has the advantage, because for all accounts and purposes he is an Argentinian player, he even has to disguise his accent when he speaks.. he's been playing in River since he was 16 and by the time he debuted he was very familiar with the way soccer is played there, Angel wasn't.. plus he was a foreigner.. it was much harder for Angel to make it into the team as a new guy coming from Colombia, than as a 'pibe' coming from River's lower divisions.


    For a fair comparison, we will have proof of who was a better striker once both players complete the same amount of games in River, then we will take the average of goals scored per game.

    We can argue all day.. but you can't argue with statistics..
    the proof is in the numbers:

    JPA scored 43 goals in 82 games in River, for an average of 0.52, roughly a goal every two games.

    According to his wikipedia page, Radamel has scored 10 goals in River in 30 appearances.. that is an average of 0.30, a goal every three games.
    Even if the numbers are slightly outdated, his average is probably still the same, if not worse, considering he hasn't scored that much this season.
    Unless Radamel starts scoring 2 or 3 goals per game, (which he may do, i hope) his average is not going to go up.. no matter how many games he plays

    Now tell me, who is ahead of who?

    Are you willing to bet that Falcao will be able to catch up to Angel in his goal average per game?
     
  23. crzdcolombian

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    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    who cares about average Falcao is our only #9 right now and I just hope that he stays on great form and stays healthy

    im tired of all u comparing our players like will gio ever be the next Pibe.... Wason the next Asprilla, Guarin the next Rincon !!!!

    if these players do well Ill be happy we need to stop giving them unfair pressure or saying they will be the next " ". As long as they are good Ill be happy because rite now we dont have that many quality players
     
  24. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
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    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
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    Re: amistoso: COLOMBIA vs PERU (r)

    What JPA did later in his time at River is immaterial to this discussion because we have no way of knowing what Falcao will do going forward - just like back in 1999 there was no way anyone could know that JPA would suddenly find his form. Its all conjecture.

    You made the argument that Falcao was behind what JPA had done AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER. And thats wrong.

    You can't argue with stats, but stats need to be compared apples to apples or they are meaningless. As they say in Colombia "el papel aguanta todo" - and you can't win an argument by forecasting what you think people will do in the future.
     
  25. yj777

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