Racism Today

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  1. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    I do recall reading about their concern about immigrants. Funny- I know a BUNCH of White people who identify as Irish-descended, but none of them are Catholic. Zero, zilch, none. The Catholics I grew up with are Latino or continental Europeans whose parents came here for NASA.

    :ROFLMAO: Brandeis sponsoring a NASCAR ride is hilarious on several levels, not just a religious one...
     
  2. Auriaprottu

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    More likely a Pharrell Do-Right hat.

    You haven't been to Stone Mountain lately, have you? The surrounding area was almost totally Black when I lived in Clarkston and Macon.
     
  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Never been there, but I did know that, thanks to the cosmopolitan nature of Taos.

    Figured it served to keep 'em intimidated or something. "The ghost of Stonewall Jackson will know how to deal with the like of you!"

    (If it weren't for the Jews you wouldn'ta got all uppity, you see-- you're not capable of it on your own.)
     
  4. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    As was discussed earlier in this thread, the question of whether Jews are "white" isn't nearly as simple as you make out. If you had asked this question 100 years ago, I suspect most "white" people would have answered no. I'd also caution about the use of the word "ethnicity" in this context.
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
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    England
    Isn't the blunt truth, though, that these people don't need a reason to hate. They come 'pre-hated' and are just looking for a target.

    Like a fella called Blair wrote some time ago, (no relation to that one)...

    In its second minute the Hate rose to a frenzy. People were leaping up and
    down in their places and shouting at the tops of their voices in an effort
    to drown the maddening bleating voice that came from the screen. The little
    sandy-haired woman had turned bright pink, and her mouth was opening and
    shutting like that of a landed fish. Even O'Brien's heavy face was flushed.
    He was sitting very straight in his chair, his powerful chest swelling and
    quivering as though he were standing up to the assault of a wave. The
    dark-haired girl behind Winston had begun crying out 'Swine! Swine! Swine!'
    and suddenly she picked up a heavy Newspeak dictionary and flung it at the
    screen. It struck Goldstein's nose and bounced off; the voice continued
    inexorably. In a lucid moment Winston found that he was shouting with the
    others and kicking his heel violently against the rung of his chair. The
    horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to
    act a part, but, on the contrary, that it was impossible to avoid joining
    in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous
    ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash
    faces in with a sledge-hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of
    people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into
    a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an
    abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to
    another like the flame of a blowlamp. Thus, at one moment Winston's hatred
    was not turned against Goldstein at all, but, on the contrary, against
    Big Brother, the Party, and the Thought Police; and at such moments his
    heart went out to the lonely, derided heretic on the screen, sole guardian
    of truth and sanity in a world of lies. And yet the very next instant he
    was at one with the people about him, and all that was said of Goldstein
    seemed to him to be true. At those moments his secret loathing of Big
    Brother changed into adoration, and Big Brother seemed to tower up, an
    invincible, fearless protector, standing like a rock against the hordes
    of Asia, and Goldstein, in spite of his isolation, his helplessness, and
    the doubt that hung about his very existence, seemed like some sinister
    enchanter, capable by the mere power of his voice of wrecking the structure
    of civilization.

    It was even possible, at moments, to switch one's hatred this way or that
    by a voluntary act. Suddenly, by the sort of violent effort with which one
    wrenches one's head away from the pillow in a nightmare, Winston succeeded
    in transferring his hatred from the face on the screen to the dark-haired
    girl behind him. Vivid, beautiful hallucinations flashed through his mind.
    He would flog her to death with a rubber truncheon. He would tie her naked
    to a stake and shoot her full of arrows like Saint Sebastian. He would
    ravish her and cut her throat at the moment of climax. Better than before,
    moreover, he realized WHY it was that he hated her. He hated her because
    she was young and pretty and sexless, because he wanted to go to bed with
    her and would never do so, because round her sweet supple waist, which
    seemed to ask you to encircle it with your arm, there was only the odious
    scarlet sash, aggressive symbol of chastity.

    ... but without the 'voluntary act' bit. These people are given direction by others because they're too fkvcing dumb to do it themselves.

    Can't help thinking the last bit is a part of it too... these people are clearly in desperate need of a blow-job :D
     
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  6. Auriaprottu

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    Yeah, so I'm reading. Did I make a similar statement earlier in the thread? If so, I don't remember it.

    I have no doubt about that. Guess I figured even the Klan keeps up with some level of science, but I've been wrong before.

    Don't just caution- suggest a better alternative.
     
  7. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That Blair fellow had talent. I need to re-read that book.
     
  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    1. Your point was that you don't understand why the KKK go after Jews given that they're white. I was responding to that.
    2. You just meant skin color :)
     
  9. Auriaprottu

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    No, they're not, not if the reference is edited from Good Morning Vietnam. They get more sex than anybody out there, because their women are freer with it. ​
     
  10. Auriaprottu

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    I know. I'd already been corrected on that, but I shouldn't have assumed you'd read past my post and seen those.

    I was referring to the Iran conference and Ahmadinejad there. Ahmadinejad is clearly not White, and it's clearly due to more than his skin. Is "race" or "ethnicity" not applicable in that instance?
     
  11. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I hadn't read that far no. Fair enough.

    I know a few Iranians that have blond hair and blue eyes. All a sliding scale :)
     
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  12. ceezmad

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    I am pretty sure they do not think of Jewish people as white.

    Just like blond latinos would not count as white.
     
  13. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
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  14. Auriaprottu

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    Luis Hernandez (the Mexican one) isn't White? Or did his blond come from a bottle?
     
  15. Auriaprottu

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  16. ceezmad

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    Cameron Diaz, Jessica Alba, Christina Aguilera, are all probably not white to most/many KKK members.

    One drop theory non sense and all.
     
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  17. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    It's back in style.
    Ireland was one country until 1920, when it split. Doubt any of their ancestors came from the Republic.
     
  18. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Not just them. I've been in discussions with otherwise normal NBA fans who count Central and South American players as nonwhite players. I say, really? This guy? But to them yeah, you can't be white and from Puerto Rico.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. ceezmad

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    And that is weird with people from Argentina and Uruguay, those 2 countries did a hell of a better job than the USA and Canada on ethnic cleansing their lands and had a very strong European only immigration policies.

    They are probably "whiter” than most white people in the USA.

    They just are the non WASP type of white, mostly Italian and Spanish.
     
  20. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    At least two of them are not blonde either...
     
  21. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    Not sure what the bold bit means, tbh...

    http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

    It's always struck me that there's a certain type of person that wants to be given a list of people to blame for their own inadequacies and failures and that the list can be added to or people removed, almost on a whim.

    There's NO logic to it... in fact, that's kinda the point.

    The excerpt from 1984 has always rather summed it up for me.
     
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  22. Auriaprottu

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    Robin Williams (playede the role of Adrian Cronauer in the film) told one of his supervisors that the suprevisor "needed a bj more than any White man he knew"
     
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  23. Auriaprottu

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    Understood.

    I once said about Tiger Woods' mom that she was likely more "pure" than his father, what with slave rape and all, meaning that Tiger is probably more Thai than Black. But that since Tiger has a Black parent, he's going to be Black in the eyes of the general public.
     
  24. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    Transplants sent by the Crown to our Emerald Isle to run out the descendants of our glorious St.Padraig.

    ******** 'em all with a razor blade. Orange bastards.
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    I think you'll find at that point, more of them left for the 'new world' due to the potato famine than anything the protestants did, tbh, but, whatever...
     

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