Quarterly Quarrel: Financial Discussion Part 4

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  1. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Why can't the FA/Uefa/FIFA ban LBOs? Or why won't they?
     
  2. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    On that, Liverpool's commercial income more than doubled from 2006 to 2011 according to the swiss ramble blog.

    2nd chart on this link.
    http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/liverpool-keep-car-running.html
     
  3. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    You are talking from the perspective of a uk taxpayer, I am talking from the perspective of a "fan"

    Afterall any money out of the club is bad ;)
     
  4. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC




    actually no...I have more discontent for david gill then the glazers.....if you look at his pre-take cover quotes and the post ones.....I am sure that pay raise has nothing to do with it.....motwyw
     
  5. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC



    Nice one... I'll be a "fcuktwit" every day of the year then a glazer apologist who has a his nose so far up their arse that it sticks out of their nose.

    No offensive mate.....but you seriously are the only united fan I know on a somewhat personal level who defends these leaches left and right.
     
  6. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In responding to a post that calls you a fcukwit, you have to try harder to avoid grammatical mistakes ;)

    But no, I don't want the Glazers in charge of the club. I certainly don't want their debt. But we could have been taken over by someone with much worse sense and we could be in a position where we could not run the club properly or be successful. Thankfully, and some of that is down to decent practices by the Glazers, we have been successful. Given the chance, I'd much rather the club was owned by a billionaire who adored the club and left the football up to the football people. But that isn't the case. I see no sense in heaping coals on Malcolm's head for the fcuk of it.
     
  7. Drae

    Drae Member+

    Jun 26, 2006
    Australia
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    They wont because I am unconvinced it is in their interest. Despite all the talking (but no action) from FA's and FIFA / UEFA that debt is bad, and to some extent foreign ownership is bad. Its not actually that bad for the leagues themselves.

    Most clubs are expendable. It was good for the EPL for Blackburn, Leeds and god willing in the future, City to burn themselves out. The bigger total spend, the more stars, the more competition, the better for the league. If clubs go broke, for the most part, they can be replaced.

    This is another reason why I doubt FFP will come into play.
     
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  8. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Hmm, that makes a lot of sense.
     
  9. Malcolm91

    Malcolm91 Member

    May 29, 2007
    Brasilia
    Why does the LBO mean more total spend?
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Exactly.

    If anything, Scudders has been happy to see any and all money come in of late

    Precrash you were at least seeing proper money. Funds, and bank loans and stuff.

    Much of the 'investment' since has been the worst kinds of bottom feeders.
     
  11. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ve-glazer-regime-represents-biggest-hurdle-to

    Story from Dan Harris.
     
  12. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
  13. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'd love to be there if the two of you ever met in person. :)
     
  14. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    we'd get along fine. I actually respect him for sticking to his guns. even if those guns are stupid. ;)
     
  15. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'd be eating some popcon.

    NM, that isn't journalism. It's easy to handpick the stats you need to write a story from both the pro- and the anti-Glazer sides of this.

    It's unfortunate that some find this a black and white issues, as if there's no middle ground. It is perfectly acceptable to acknowledge that certain parts of the Glazers' tenure has been great for this club, while aspects of it has not. Some of you lot act like that George Bush "you're either with us or against us" bullshit.
     
  16. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    I would gladly buy his 1st and 2nd pint :cool:
     
  17. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    xoxoxoxo
     
  18. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    The funny thing is that even the likes of Andy Green who is the must financial spokesman (and who NM has quoted a million times over the last half decade) now admit that Glazers have done a good job increasing revenues and that their predictions (which have been posted by NM on numerous other occasions) claiming that we were going to crash and burn within 3-5 years were completely silly and off the mark.
     
  19. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I have never once said that we would crash and burn .....

    go and find one post....
     
  20. Republic of Mancunia

    Aug 24, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    What about mine you ********?
     
  21. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Of course I would....maybe when I am over in the winter motwyw :eek:
     
  22. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    MUST most definitely have. I am not going to go about digging through your posts mate.
     
  23. Numquam Moribimur

    May 30, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    So stop clamming that I have bc I have never said we would go bust....

    infact ....edit the post
     
  24. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    if u don't think we'll go bust then what is all the hullabaloo about?
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The glazers are perfect for the vast majority of fans who never spend a single $ directly on Man Utd anyway.

    If Utd really have 300m fans (and it could be more than that if you include people who simply follow stories about Utd) then it is simply a vast digital audience to be exploited by a plethora of brands and companies.

    None of them care about ticket prices, financials or anything else.

    My concern about the prem is general is it has far fewer of the genuine A List Hollywood stars compared to a few years ago.

    If you want to engage digital audiences, then you need the mega personalities like Messi, Ronaldo, Jose and co.
     
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