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  1. Cris 09 Trololololo

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    As long as you select the seats - I'm all in. You always know how to get the best seats in the house.
          
  2. b9d23m89 Member

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    Has Spain been to Quito or Ecua for that matter before?
  4. Cris 09 Trololololo

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    Yes, around 1550's or earlier...and they came with a shit-load of their A team players known as Los Conquistadores. They also visited Peru around that time and kicked their asses.
  5. Primitive Ways Member

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  6. LDU4ever Moderator

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    I think that's part of the agreement to play them...What venue? I hope it's not the Modelo :cautious:
  7. The Machine Member

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    The list of players who will suit up against Portugal came out today. W. Ayovi is not on the list. Is he injured? In his place is Bagui. Some might argue that R. Oyola should have been called up but I'm not one of them. Don't get me wrong I like the kid and he's one of the kids I want to get a shot on the NT this year but he's coming off a serious injury and has yet to play 90 minutes in a competitive match. His time will come. I'm also surprised to see J. Ayovi get called up. He's only played 48 minutes in the last 4 weeks or so. I would have liked to see Fidel Martinez get a shot. He finished strong last season and has carried that over to this season and is playing well. I was also more than certain that Rojas would have gotten the nod over Montero. Rojas has been starting regularly at Morelia while Montero has been coming off the bench.

    http://www.teradeportes.com/futbol/...a-convoca-a-18-jugadores-para-el-partido-ante
  8. Luigi408 Member

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    I think the list sucks big time. What is Guagua and Bagui doing there? They suck so much! R. Oyola and Cristian Ramirez would have been a perfect time to call both of them up. I would bet anything that they would play a MILLION times better than Guagua or Bagui. Who cares about W. Ayovi... dude is old and slow. That right side is going to get owned big time by Portugal.

    Get J. Ayovi outta there. Dude sucks. It has been proven enough times. That is why he has failed in Mexico. He should even be considered at all to be in the NT anymore.

    I agree that F. Martinez and Rojas should have been called up too but with Montero also.
  9. b9d23m89 Member

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    THAT LIST IS GARBAGE!! Reminds me of the lists Rueda would make like a year and a half ago or more. Oscar Bagui, Henry Leon, Jorge Guagua??? C'mon! Let's be a little more serious here. It's ********ing Portugal we are playing not Pilahuin Tio. That's why European teams won't respect us and won't want to play against us. With those players no wonder they pass on playing against Ecuador.

    Walter Ayovi the CAPTAIN isn't there. Why is that? I just saw Walter play this past weekend and he's doing fine. What's the excuse now for Rueda? And he always goes for the old washed up players that never made it and never will make it in the NT- OSCAR BAGUI lol get out of here with that. I would like Roosevelt Oyola on the list, but like The Machine said, he just came out of a serious injury. Where's Joao Rojas and Michael Arroyo? Jeez, Arroyo is like the best winger we have on the left side at the moment. He's improved a sh*t ton. He scores through free-kicks, long shots, through great plays and he's way more effective than Jeff Montero- not that I want Montero out of there, but damn how does this coach come through with his decisions? I feel like he picks names out of box and does it all at random. . At least take a look at how well Fidel Martinez is doing in Tijuana. As a last option even Cristian Suarez is a great player to call up. Damn, this is why lots of people don't ever side with Reinaldo Rueda b/c he does one great thing then screws up like 3 times to make up for it. Guess we'll have to improvise and put Achilier on the left - he's familiar with every position in the defense (left or right side).
  10. The Machine Member

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    Guagua being called up doesn't bother me, so long as he doesn't play. The two CB's should me Morante and Erazo, no questions asked. Paredes should be on the right and Achilier on the left. I haven't seen Achilier play at LB in a while but he's done it before and he'll hold his own. I agree that we need to find Walter Ayovi's replacement but Oscar Bagui is not the answer. He struggles against fast, physical attackers.
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    1)Eduardo Morante??? I know hes a good player, but how can he be considered?? he hasnt even played an official game in months.
    2)Jorge Guagua? This guy was probably one of the worst defenders in Mexico last year, all I ever heard of him were negative comments from the Mex press.
    3)Oscar ********ing Bagui??? Guarding Nani or Ronaldo??? a ********ing joke.
    4)Henry Leon? Not NT Level....not anywhere near.
    5)Jaime Ayovi? hasnt been playing in his already inferior league.
    Walter Ayovi not called up? one of our most consistent players? our captain. solid performer
    Michael Arroyo? the best national player in our tournament?
    Joao Rojas? Fidel Martinez? players who deserved a call up, heck even N. Mina deserves a call up before Jaime Ayovi.
  12. b9d23m89 Member

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    Walter Ayovis replacement is Roosevelt Oyola along with Cristian Ramirez. We got the replacements it's just that we need Roosevelt to get more futbol on his system since he just came back from that injury but he should be ready for Qualifiers. From what I heard Ramirez is going to start on that German team he's going too. We got left
    backs and really good ones to replace Ayovi. Roosevelt at his full potential is crack.
  13. LDU4ever Moderator

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    The lineup has me very worried, but a lot of the guys we're complaining about should be subs anyway...Regrettably, we have some serious talent that has been overlooked. Why Ayovi was snubbed is beyond me. Rueda = king of 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
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    Would have loved to see arroyo up against Portugal. morante did good against Gremio in Quito. Let see how he does in Brasil. Ecuador has to at least have a Good showing to get more games. Maybe Rueda doesn't want to risk it which doesn't make sense. Go out there a give the best you can in the first half than Sub in the youth in the second. What a miss opportunity to see some youth against a real opponent.
  15. b9d23m89 Member

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    If I were Portugal I'd feel disrespected if Ecuador came to play against me with some of those players. And no subs at all to change the game up. We have what's barely on deck and after that we are donzo. So whatever we see in the first half is the best we'll probably see all game. So stupid that Rueda limits his squad and limits the quality that Ecuador can exhibit.
  16. barcelonista1981 Member

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    So according to Rueda, Walter Ayovi was not called up due to a tight schedule, he plays a game in Cancun 2 days before the game against Portugal, thats about the only explanation he gave, did anyone see the Monarcas game today? Montero didnt start again yet Rojas scored a goal and played 90 mins, lol guess who Rueda called?
  17. Luigi408 Member

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    I think Montero played really good though in the short time he came in. Gave them more speed.
  18. b9d23m89 Member

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    Montero did really well in the first game of the season. I didn't see the second game but i think started that one too. Not sure about the games after that but I saw the entire game yesterday. Rojas was on fire. Montero is great and so is Rojas. Sometimes they just exaggerate with the dribbling and the possession simply because they can and that's not effective all the time.

    This is where players like Michael Arroyo, Cristian Suarez, and Fidel Martinez have an advantage over them. And even Vinicio Angulo who can play on the wing and as a striker. These players will score and win games for their teams as opposed to Rojas and Montero. We've been talking about this for a while now and so far I've only seen Montero and Rojas improve when it comes to pulling back and defending to recover the ball. Besides that, they haven't increased their goal average at all.

    I just think it's funny how Montero played 90 minutes every game in Betis and has trouble being consistent an entire season in Morelia. When Montero's at his best, he starts every game in Morelia but then for some unknown reason he gets benched, same with Joao. Maybe they wanna give some of them rest b/c they plan to use them for the Copa Mexico? that could be it but who knows.
  19. The Machine Member

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    It's confirmed that Ecuador is going to play a friendly against El Savador on March 21. Not a particular strong opponent but seeing as how many of the world's top NT's will be playing qualifiers, our choices were limited. This can be a good chance for our guys to catch rhythm leading up to the game against Paraguay and it will give us the opportunity to work on some things, particularly our defense. I'm curious though, will Rueda use the opportunity to try out some new players or will go with the squad he has in mind that will face Paraguay. Trying out some new players would be nice but it wouldn't be worth the time if it takes away from our preparation for the game against Paraguay. Beating up on a weaker opponent (no offense El Salvador) is nice and all but our attention should be focused entirely on Paraguay. Also, another thing to keep in mind, worst case scenario, if Rueda goes with his A team, and should Valencia and/or Caicedo get injured and put their presence for the Paraguay game in jeopardy, that would be regrettable. Just a risk to keep in mnd.
  20. barcelonista1981 Member

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    For this game Rueda can only use the already called up players for the match against Paraguay so the options are limited, I totally agree with keepin a good eye on Valencia and Caicedo since they are our most fragile players but at the same time we nned thosetwo to get acclimated to La Altura, so playing at least a half its a must, also Morante could use tose minutes, let us rememer Paraguay has a serious air game and last time they beat us was trhough high ballas and headers, so Erazo and Morante will have their hands full. Rueda must decide on that left wing however, Montero isnt doing so hot, theres a lot of talk about Fidel Martinez getting the call and Suarez is doing quite alright as well, Arroyo's red card will probably prevent him from getting called so Rueda must solve that issue.
  21. b9d23m89 Member

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    you bring up a really great point about Michael Arroyo's red card in the campeonato. How many games was he suspended for 3 or 4? This could easily mean Rueda won't call him up, since only 1 or 2 games have gone by since he got the red. In addition to that, Arroyo's first few games in the campeonato haven't been his best ones, especially since Barcelona is on decline lately. I personally think that Michael Arroyo is one of those players that is a MUST HAVE in the NT. The only player that comes close to his style of playing is Fidel Martinez, so it's no wonder that Fidel's name is going around lately.

    The competition on the left wing was tough in the beginning of this qualifier and Arroyo's performances in Atlante weren't better than average which is why he lost his spot to players like Montero and Rojas. Same goes for Cristian Suarez who lost his spot after that injury in Santos. But the difference between players like Arroyo/Suarez vs. Montero/Rojas is that Arroyo and Suarez can score. Arroyo is probably the only NT player that I believe has an effective free kick. Both Suarez and Arroyo's long shots are much better than Rojas or Montero's- Montero can't shoot for his life.

    If Arroyo isn't considered by Rueda, it will be a loss for us even though he doesn't get many minutes on the NT. I think Fidel Martinez would be the perfect replacement for Arroyo. And Marcos Caicedo fits as a replacement for Jaime Ayovi. I know Marcos isn't a natural striker, but he's a winger that scores like one and tends to move into the box like one. Completely different style of playing than Jaime, but I think if there's a new face on the NT, it should definitely be Marcos Caicedo.

    Another thing I wanted to bring up were the substitute right and left backs. Diego Calderon (who's Rueda's usual first choice as a substitute left back is now here in the MLS (Colorado Rapids). He played 90 minutes his first game, but I'm not sure if Rueda will include him in the list or allow him to adapt to his team. Roosevelt Oyola didn't start off the season the way we'd expect and is still in the process of getting back to last years form. Geovanny Nazareno who would be the other obvious option has done well in his return, but it's risky to include him in the NT so early. Jose Madrid is naturally JC Paredes substitute, but with Madrid's horrible performances in Liga, I doubt Rueda calls him up. Madrid lately has been benched in Liga so his chances of being on the NT are low.

    This makes me believe that Oscar Bagui will make this list, due to all the circumstances I mentioned. But the biggest question of all is who will replace Jose Madrid? There's not a single Right back in the country that could make the cut, not even Pedro Velasco who is dug deep into Barcelona's bench. Smh, that's why I said he was a dumbass for moving to Barcelona.
  22. The Machine Member

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    You bring up a good point about Paraguay's aerial game. That's their strength and has been for years. Personally the two best defenders we have that can counteract against their aerial game is Morante and Achilier, Erazo is not particularly strong in the air. That being said I'm not saying Erazo shouldn't start just pointing that out. I'm not worries about Montero to be honest, leading up to the Portugal friendly he was doing average at best with his club team but turned in a quality performance against Portugal.
  23. The Machine Member

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    In response to b9d23m89, there's a chance that Arroyo does not get called up. Should he have a good game against Toluca and score a brace or something like that I could see him getting the nod, but should he have a crappy game then I could see him getting excluded. In such a case I would surmise that Suarez as opposed to Martinez gets the call up. Rueda has gone with Suarez in the past and while I haven't seen him play this season, if he's healthy I wouldn't mind seeing him on the NT. In all likelihood Bagui get's the call up. The backup RB position is of concern, I can't think of anyone who should without a doubt get a call up.
  24. The Machine Member

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    The next call up will look something like this IMO. I'm guessing he calls up 22 players as he has done in the past.

    GK's: Banguera, Dominguez, ???*
    Defenders: Erazo, Achilier, Morante, Guagua, Paredes, W. Ayovi, Bagui, ???**
    Midfield: Valencia, Ibarra, Rojas, Montero, Saritama, Noboa, Leon, P. Quinonez
    Forwards: F. Caicedo, Benitez, ???***

    *Will Rueda carry three goalies. He can get by with two but let's say whoever starts at GK against El Salvador gets injured, who does he call up, if only to ride bench against Paraguay. In the past it would have been Bone, but he's not starting so he's probably not an option. Does he call up Mora? lol Elizaga? lmfao Dreer? Just putting it out there....

    **Who's our backup RB if in fact Rueda decides he needs one. Madrid has been horrendous at Liga and I think he's riding bench nowadays so he's not an option. How about that kid from Dep. Cuenca, Lopez (who btw didn't do well with the U20 team for the most part). Or maybe the kid from Independiente Luis Caicedo? Needless to say our options are limited. With Paredes not doing all that well with BSC, a little competition might do him some good and get him out of his funk.

    ***And last but not least who does Rueda call up to replace J. Ayovi. Personally, I have no idea. We do not have a whole lot of depth when it comes to center forwards so our options are limited. Anangono has yet to score this season playing for Argentinos Juniors. When De Jesus learns how to consistently put ball in net, give us a call. And while Martinez, M. Caicedo, and Suarez all deserve mention, none of them can be counted on to duke it out with opposing CB's in the box. They're more wingers, second striker types...
  25. viagoal Member

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    Anybody have a online stream for Ecuador vs El Salvador?

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