Pro Evolution Soccer 2012: What would you improve if you were Konami?

Yeah 2009 was such a looooong time ago ,lol....

Sept. 27 is when it drops in North America. Two weeks ater in Europe.

i dont get why they dont get more south american teams/leagues... that would secure the hispanic market... i mean no offense, but the dutch league? is there anyone out there who wants to play that league? if they got argentina, brasil, colombia, and mexico (just for starters) they would get killer sales

dont get me wrong im going to buy it first thing tuesday morning, but every year im hopeful and always get disappointed when i see the team list

What an improvement over last years abomination. I am actually excited for this one now. Have you seen the new career modes?

Team lists never bother me since I just edit anyway.

Um, the Dutch care about the Dutch league?

Honestly, the international fanbase of the South American leagues isn't as big as the European ones, which is why you see less of those teams and leagues in video games.

I may switch back to PES this year - really enjoyed the demo as compared to FIFA12.

I agree, though I might still get FIFA, too.

I had PES5 and loved it. Got Fifa this year...

So can you still download something and get all the correct kits and names?

One thing I loved about PES was when you did a practice match and you could hit a button and it would rewind about 5 seconds and you could try the same thing. Such as coming down wing and making a cross and seeing result and then hitting that button and it would rewind you back to making the cross where you could experiment with hitting it different ways. I thought it was a great learning tool. I have yet to see Fifa use something like this. Does PES still have it? If PES beefed up there online tools and got more license...I would buy it over FIFA

how are the online options? I have only played FIFA for about 1 hour, but it's hard to imagine a game having better online tools

PES is a big fail. Konami has lost its way. i would improve all of it cause most of it is crap

You're in the minority. Most who got the game are enjoying it and tooting its horns without end.

no im not, the majority is saying its average, only PES fanboys are tooting its horns. the press, critics, gaming sites and the actual gamers are all saying its average

Not really. I've seen several first-time PES players who've played it this year and are LOVING it. The gameplay is more fluid and organic than FIFA's, though the graphics and smoothness of the game are inferior to FIFA's.

i suggest you do more research before you start talking crap. its an average game, deal with it. you will not find one site where PES got a higher score than FIFA (and if you do i'll show you 20 where FIFA scores higher) on gaming forums FIFA is better, in the press as well. I used to be a hardcore winning eleven fan and had 4 through 8. then pes 2009 came out, got that and thought, its exactly the same as 8. so 2010 came along and i switched to FIFA. PES 2010 was crap, PES 2011 was more crap and 2012 though its an improvement, is still just average

the bottom line in video games is, is it fun? PES is fun, but FIFA is a lot more fun

Casual game reviewers will say FIFA is better because they don't see the differences in gameplay that are a big deal to soccer die-hards who are also gamers.

FIFA has little to no fouls. Yeah that's fun and realistic.

I'm not saying which is better because I have yet to decide, but to say "deal" with PES being weaker based on some crap reviews is nonsense.

PES. It's Master League mode is much, much deeper than FIFA's Career Mode.

Definitely PES is better for creating your own team, players, and campaigning. Training, none have a good training mode IMO, but I've done training in both games and PES is better. And you basically can sign players from other teams, or if they're free agents, you can just offer them a reasonable contract, and your set to go.