Pre-Match / Match / Post-Match Thread - Toronto FC at Vancouver Whitecaps FC - March 2, 2013 (R)

Discussion in 'Toronto FC' started by atlanticTFCfan, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    No, definitely not disappointed but TFC fans have a real habit of getting ahead of themselves. Check out the link to a big blog post I wrote in the blogs thread - that started as a post on U-Sector - for some extended thoughts on what last night might mean.

    As negative as my reaction might seem... we might be (slowly) heading the right direction!

    But Nelsen's huge collar's gotta go. My wife was calling him "Quentin" because he looked like like Tarantino with that sweater vest on.
     
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  2. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I'm just glad he wasn't wearing shorts and a practice jersey;)
     
  3. adammac19

    adammac19 BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2006
    Sydney Mines
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    One thing like to mention is Bendik who had a decent game, hope he can continue to show that he wants to be the number 1 keeper and push Frei whenever he comes back.
     
  4. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I must say, even though Earnshaw was gassed after 60 minutes, he made a good first impression on me. He's got a good first touch, maybe a tad slow reacting to some plays, but he could be a nice finisher. As long as he can create shots and not poach all the time, he'll fit in nicely here.
     
  5. ArteEtLabore

    ArteEtLabore Member

    Dec 16, 2006
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

    Gee, talk about the glass being half-full. Way to ruin our "woo-hoo!!! TFC only lost by ONE goal this time - we're getting closer!!!" moment of celebration.
     
  6. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    If he can turn this club around he can wear a tutu for all I care.
     
  7. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'm like a doctor: it might taste bad but it's for our own good.

    Get too excited and a crushing rest of the month might be harder to endure! All of our opponents over the next month won their opening game; two of them away in hostile grounds and LA at home in a rout. It still might - MIGHT! - just get worse before it gets better.
     
  8. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    What about shorts? I suspect they're still verboten.
     
  9. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    how the heck does a guy in Kentucky end up supporting TFC?
     
  10. Copes

    Copes Member

    Aug 30, 2012
    St. John's, Newfoundland
    Club:
    Torino FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I liked the look of Earnshaw up there as well. I'm thinking that once he gets match-fit he'll be a huge asset.
     
  11. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The main positive that I'm taking from last night is that it looks like Nelsen is intent on playing a pass and control style rather than kick and hope, so even though results this year will likely be poor, we'll at least have more entertaining games to watch.

    The main things that are lacking are:
    - Match fitness: these guys are a long way from being able to play a full 90. Probably mid-season before this is rectified

    - Still too many in our starting 11 that really are depth players. Hopefully this will be largely rectified over the course of the season

    - The team needs to gel. Again, will be late in the season if not early next season before they realy come together.
     
  12. scarborotfcfan

    May 26, 2008
    Agree completely. Unfortunately, they would probably fire Nelsen mid-season just as they're starting to improve and we'll start all over again.
     
  13. atlanticTFCfan

    atlanticTFCfan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    Sydney, Nova Scotia
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    And risk alienating what supporter base is left? Definitely not a good idea.
     
  14. Rover_Dave

    Rover_Dave Member

    Jan 9, 2013
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Seen the result. Unlucky getting beat 1-0, not seen the highlights yet but i will have a look later on.
    How did Nelsen set you up?
     
  15. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Bad ideas are the mainstay of MLSE.
     
  16. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    defensive 4-4-1-1 with two DMs
     
  17. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Let's not start this rinse-wash-repeat cycle again...TFC changes management....things don't change that much....fans/media blame the previous regime.

    Between Mariner's firing and this weekend, there could have other matches arranged....if that is what the new management wanted. They did not.

    Besides, the one thing that has not changed in history of TFC (under any management) has been the idiotic race in the last week before the first game to, you know, find players and sign them. There were players playing significant minutes on Saturday night that would have had exactly zero benefit from TFC playing more preseason games....because up until the middle of last week they would not have been available to play in them.
     
  18. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Mariner for our current lack of fitness, I just find it funny that he planned as few games as his predecessor after all his whining about lack of fitness due to the lack of games in preseason.

    Does anyone remember preseason 2011, the one that Preki would have organized? We had a training camp in Turkey against Partizan, Red Star, and Dinamo Zagreb, then we went to Charleston and played a bunch of games, and then we went to Orlando. These past two years we've just gone to Orlando

    BTW, I'm sure they could have scheduled more games than they did, but I doubt they would have been able to line up a decent team to play against since they would have all filled up their preseason schedules already.
     
  19. #1TFC

    #1TFC Member

    Apr 28, 2007
    Section 123
    I sat down to watch the game happy the season was starting. My expectations were rather low, I was assuming something in the range of a 2 - 3 - goal score differential with possession being high 30's / low 40"s. I thought we did a decent job in the first half but was impressed with the White caps speed on / off the ball. Our back four did their jobs well. Upfront without Silva and a couple of guys dealing with travel and jet lag I really did not know what to expect. You usually need a day for every one hour of time change to make the conversion so for both Eppie and Earnie given their performance they did quite well. I stand by my 5 games and then we will see comment, but I am quite optimistic. I liked the way Vancouver used space to spread us out and at the same time I wondered why we seemed to lack this attack feature. Lambe is very quick and I like it when he runs at the other side, I would like to see more of this further out to spread other defences out. The White Caps are to be complimented on the team they have put together and while we may have some stomach turners until we get into late spring I am pleased that with the overal young age of our squad and the potential that appears to be there we will start to play games that are fun to watch and delivering of desired results. Bekkie looked really poised for a rookie and it will be interesting to see if he and Silva can co-exist on the field, given their respective experience. Earnshaw had moments where I could see the quickness and thought process others have mentioned and I can see that he is a natural scorer. All in all I thought the outcome was fair. Vancouver controlled large parts of the 2nd half and while we had strong possession in the 1st half I did not see too many opps that might have had us up by more than 1. Dunfield is so enthusiastic and I like that but he is a liability at times and that missed header was disappointing. ANyhow it will be good to see them take the field this week-end and how knows, who knows . .
     
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  20. G Enriquez

    G Enriquez Member+

    Apr 1, 2002
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada


    I always thought MLSE did that but it just occurred to me that Preki would've wanted to play against Partizan, Red Star and Dinamo.
     
  22. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    That's a very pro-Vancouver highlight package. They were better than us, but we had our chances too.
     
  23. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whitecaps only won 1-0, I didn't see anything that made me think they were going to be a major contender for the Cup. I thought TFC played rather well, and 1-0 loss is at least a moral victory, if there ever could be such a thing.
     
  24. sportie1

    sportie1 Member

    Sep 4, 2008
    being a whitecap supporter and attending the game on saturday, i was impressed by TFC's play-- spirited, well-organized along the back line, lots of hustle and playing for each other-- i think TFC has turned the corner and given time, will finally develop into a quality team that the fans have been waiting for soooooo long-- by mid-season, i think u will see that TFC can be a very competitive team building for the future

    good luck- TFC fans deserve it!!
     
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  25. RetreadFC

    RetreadFC Member

    Sep 8, 2008
    Oshawa
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ok...I'll answer my own question re: earnshaw. He's only signed until July but TFC have an option then to extend. [this from Larson]
     

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