News: PPL Park Seating Remapping for Corners

So, your choices are to stay where you're at and suck up their f u c k up, or hope they can accomodate your 6 tickets in a similar spot (3 rows up) along the endline (which let's face facts, they may not have that many open spots). Yeah, sorry, they really screwed the pooch on this one.

Speaking for myself only, I don't bitch about much. But this does effect my wallet. I guess I don't understand lowering the price of one section and raising another. Let's face it, if it happened in another section, I probably wouldn't care because it didn't effect me. Will I leave my seats to another section, no... I love my seats and section. I will pay to stay there, but allow the people who are going to pay more a little moaning.

Not really out to get us... just full of crap when the make mistakes, and it's now going to cost us money if they can't accomodate...

I say anyone who cant be relocated gets a free suite for the year. (kidding)

what fuck up? realizing they could give you nicer seats, and instead of REALLY messing with you by changing your payment during the initial payment plan, just taking the hit themselves? would you rather they hadn't done that?

2 years until doing something about it or notifying... as september is when we renew. maybe in the beginning of the year bring this up we would have time to save, or plan accordingly.

Just talked with a friend in the endline, and he doesn't get why his price would drop, even though it's basically just a role reversal.

gonna have fun trying to find a relocated endline seat when all season tickets are supposedly sold out and i'm sure people who may have dropped in the endline because of price will be more inclined to stay now that it's cheaper.

Re: Seating map changes at PPL

Look man, I don't post that much so I don't know if you have a bone to pick or what, sure seems that way based on your posts. I've been with the U since the beginning, actually since before the beginning. And I'm a pretty positive, supportive dude. But wrong is wrong. What the front office is doing here is wrong. I picked my seats because of the price and because of the atmosphere that the SOB bring to the match, (I'm in 101). Now the FO is coming up with some rather weak sounding excuse to raise my season ticket prices by almost $100, so excuse me for speaking up.

As far as the SS, first of all, there are plenty of SOBs in my section, I'm sure they would've appreciated the opportunity to be heard. Second of all, maybe a few of us plebs might've snuck in and perhaps had the temerity to raise some issues that effect us as well, who knows...

And as Earl said, let us have the time to bitch about this cause it's new.

Just spoke with Fan Services online.

1) There is an ongoing list. Put your name on it if you want to move to the endline. This does not lock you in to moving over, but it is a waiting list for those once the renewal process is completed, to see about the available space in the endline once/if some people leave (price decrease makes it all the more unlikely).

2) Seat upgrade loyalty points - which is at 800 points. Doesn't matter for this year. Why? Grandfathered price for renewals in corner for this coming year is the same price as endline. So to upgrade, we would receive the 'endline price'. The endline price, is again, grandfathered in for corner people who don't move... so it's basically pointless. If they keep the seat upgrade, then we could probably keep our seats each year at the endline prices after that. Will probably ask my ticket rep if that point option will be available going forward.

3) They ask where you would like to be located - round about estimate middle, upper, etc... I chose 114...since that's really still a corner, but i want to be out of the sun (in 121 now).

4) Like in the email, we will have first dibs on relocation... Again, not likely many in the endline will move unless they have availability in 120 and 114.

5) She had a real bubbly personality, and fairly helpful.

Basically the ultimate decision will be next year, not this coming renewal process. Still a dick move.

I don't think it is a dick move because they give us a season to absorb the move. If that email said your season tickets are going up for next year then we could all be pretty mad, but they did a nice thing by giving everyone a heads up a year in advance.


The only thing that sucks if i wanted to add a seat to my account what happens then? Do my two existing seats pay the grandfathered price, while the third gets more expensive?

When the season tickets first went on sale, they NEVER mentioned that the corner seating was going to have "different, not as nice" seats. So for them to come back now and say "We gave you a break for 2 years" is absolute BS.

If I had fully known that my corner seats were going to be different type seats from the beginning it would be a different story. But they never said anything about that. That's why alot of people on here are calling BS on that story.

If you want to raise prices on me....just do it. Don't piss on me and then tell me its raining!!

I didn't ask that one..but she didn't say anything to that effect when i brought up that i wanted to add a seat in.

Then again, i was putting my name on the relocation list.

Sorry sir, it's snowing.

Ever try to walk into a crowd that isn't socially aware or mannerly and have to walk completely against the direction that they are going? It's kind of like that.

There's still no space to move. Most people picked the corners because of the price. Naturally, if it was the correct way...the endlines would go first and those people would fill into the corners as they filled up. Now that it's been the way it has for a while, people are going to want to move to the endline... but the endliners aren't going to move. Only one group is moving, and the rest will just be sitting still... there won't be alot of availability and that's what i'm more annoyed at. The drastic increase in ticket price for the 2013 season will ultimately have a lot of people who aren't able to move because of lack of availability, not renew.

This isn't even going into the notion of seating and section preference (Tammany saints for one).

I guess I didn't realize that $80 per seat increase $342 2012 - $440(20 a season seems to be the increase) 2013 was going to effect people that much. I like the corner and with a 13 months notice i think the $80 difference per seat( The family of 5 next to me won't be too happy) for me is no big deal i'd rather stay where i'm at because i like the people around me(most of them) and the view i get of the field.

To be honest, it was odd from the start that the corner seats were cheaper than the non-supporters' section endline seats. Switching the prices actually makes a lot of sense and is in line with how it should be.

Giving season ticket holders a year at the old price before having to decide what to do (and to be able to prepare) is a good move by the club.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are actually a lot of available seats in the Endline for new season ticket holders -- the corner seats have tended to be gobbled up (some of those sections are the ones that have been "sold out" in advance of the season). I suspect the endline seats, with the higher prices have tended to be more individual game sales as opposed to season tickets. Also, we know that part of the corner seats are the away game seating and they aren't going to be moved [quick aside, I guess part of the benefit of this is that they'd be charging more to away fans].

To be fair, I don't think they ever said the River End seats would be either. It's not exactly uncommon to have different types of seats in different areas of a stadium, with the cheapest seats getting the shaft invariable. Some are cushoned, some have cup holders, some fold/some are fixed, some with more leg room, some are bleachers, etc. You rarely would know this info when initially buying tickets unless you are familiar with the nuances of the stadium.

My point is, consider for a moment that they are telling the truth and had actually gone through with putting cheaper seats in the corner sections. I don't necessarily think they would have told potential season ticket holders in that situation anyway. After all, they didn't promise you the same seat as everyone else (or at least I doubt they did).

Am I one of the people you like to be around?

Yes earl you are.

I'm not entirely sold on the whole "different seat" explaination... And I happen to have a set of PPL drawings at my office (I'm hoping the interior concrete and seat details are in there). I'll be checking tomorrow. Plus, if anyone has ever sat in both the river end and the rest of the contiguous bowl, it appears that the concrete dimensions are different and there is different spacing of the rows to accomodate the one-piece seats (again, I'm not sure, but will check the prints). I'm not sure you would be able to just swap the seat currently in the corners for the one-piece of the river end.

My first though is that this is purely a financial decision, regardless of one-piece seats, original pricing mistakes, etc. The team currently has sold out corners at the lowest price point in the stadium (outside of TRE), with a high percentage of STH. Knowing that a large majority of these fans will likely NOT switch seats due to a number of reasons (availability/worse seats in the endline, emotional attachment to seat, surrounding concessions, large group, friends, etc), by switching price levels, they now have a high percentage of STH locked into the second lowest price level. This will free up the new lowest price level, the endline, for additional sales. As it stands now, most of the $25 corner, face value tickets are spoken for or sold out. And I'm sure the team feels they are losing game day sales and potential new STH because the majority of tickets available outside of the Marketplace, begin in the higher price levels. By swapping price levels, they will likely make available a large number of inexpensive tickets to the public, while retaining existing STH in the corners at a higher level.

essentially, it's all business.

Even though i work for the man, i base a lot off principle (naively) and it just grinds my gears.

I do like they are giving us a year, but it still is dick in general.

Here's how I look at it.

My wife and I sit in 133 because it's the closest section to the River End without being in the River End. I chose that section because it was close enough so that we could get the ambiance (and, as it turns out, create a bit of our own), while being able to watch the game without flags and scarves in our faces and not being forced to stand for 90 minutes. As it turns out, we've become very, very good friends with the crew over there and the people in our section is a reason why we enjoy going every week.

If this occurs, we're looking at shelling out an additional $200 for the season for the right to keep our seats. If we don't want to do that, our options are:

1. Relocate to the River End. Not an option, though I don't even know how available seats will be next year.
2. Relocate to the Endline. This would be a plausible option except I have no desire to sit in the library end. I sat in the library end for the Independence game, and my wife and I lasted 30 seconds before we went over and joined the SoBs. Granted, it's apples and oranges, but I don't want to be surrounded by kids and families.
3. Get partial season tickets or single game tickets. Probably better for our wallets, but I'd miss going as often as I do now.

I'm willing to accept their explanation, lame as it is. My problem is that, I knew that at some point we were going to be priced out, I just didn't realize it would be so soon.

This remapping thing and prince change has got me thinking. Not really on topic but what do you all think the special incentives, if any, for the founding member ticket holders will be? Or is it just the title of saying we were the first to watch the team

I was thinking about the pricing out too. I plan on staying in my corner, mostly because I like it there but also because I think its going to be hard to find 6 seats along the endline, only 6 rows up.

Another thing, though prices are going down for endliners, compared to our $320 this year, they will be higher priced at $342. Are we getting another game, costs going up 7%, or are there that many people on the waiting list they can afford to look at their current customers (most of us "Founding Members" {whatever good that seems to do}) as disposable?

with Montreal coming into the league, I'd assume we're adding a game.

the commish said they are not adding games next season (unbalanced seched) but we could see another ppl park friendly.

Re: Seating map changes at PPL

As far as I can tell, sitting in 120, this doesn't effect us at all?

Wait, what?! Link?

It's really not as much as a library as you make it out to be... most families are in the corners and sidelines.

There's a whole group of kids usually, like a youth team, who at certain points in the game bang on the siding that is the club house... cause it's tin or whatever, makes a large amount of noise. The independence game is a poor example because the whole stadium is missing 13,000 people.

This reminds me, what happened to "the guy in 120?" Need to bump that thread