Possibility of a Cascadia National Team

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  1. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Yeah, well....

    NSSdLA is too many letters for a baggage tag.

    In English, that would be OHLotA, which is a total mess.
          
  2. Timon19 Member+

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    Umm...I guess since the "joke" has come this far...

    Los Angeles becomes The Angels (not of Anaheim)

    LAX becomes TAX.

    There ain't no "san" in there anywhere in "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles del Río de Porciúncula".
  3. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Silly person. Nobody in California politics would put up with a TAX on anything, even if it was just a baggage claim tag.



    Here is what the official LA historian has to say about the name:

    I'm sorry, but if you are going to be the Queen of the Angels, sainthood seems a minimum requirement for the job responsibilities. QAX is unpronounceable, so I took liberties. Sue me.

    Any idea what porciúncula means? It seems fishily related to the Western fixation with pigs again. No wonder the Anglos call the river/storm sewer there now the LA river. But where is the accuracy there?

    Aren't we supposed to be talking about the football team for the People's Democratic Republic of Cascadia ( AKA Skookum Hiyu Cascadia), anyway?
  4. Timon19 Member+

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    Shit, fool. You don't know the rules of the Catholic Church, do you?
  5. Cliveworshipper Member

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    I have to bite my lip on that one. There are so many places to go.

    Let's just leave it that I belong to no organized religion. I'm Catholic.
  6. viscajunior Member

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    Wow, I didnt knew were cascadia was and I looked for it and when I saw what territory is known as Cascadia I thought to myself "this team will not be capable of beating Greenland and Gibraltar"
  7. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Have you ever played Greenland at Their home? Its not as easy as you think. People's noses keep breaking off.
  8. Cliveworshipper Member

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    If you want to compare what a Cascadia team MIT look like, use the Catalan model.

    CAPs for a another country don't matter, because it's not a FIFA team.
    Citizenship is pretty loose. You don't need a passport( obviously). All you really have to consider is some ties to the area- born in the area, university ties, family living there, or just a long time tie to the area.

    Players that come to mind are Kasey Keller, Connor Casey, Marcus Hanemann, Steve Cherundolo, Josh Simpson, etc. Obviously, some are retired or almost retired, but there are still players that are overseas or in the MLS from the area.

    Who has a list of what a Men's and Women's Cascadia team might look like?

    ( the Women's team might be top 5 in the world)
  9. ganderif Member

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    I always though it would be cool to have State teams. We could have a big state tournament.
  10. atomicbloke Member

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    The Confederate States could have had their own National Team if their citizens weren't too fat to play soccer.
  11. Chowderhead Member

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    You have a better chance of winning Powerball for six straight weeks than you do of seeing someone like, oh, Kasey Keller consider himself anything but American.

    Your idea is just another example of the denationalized elitism that poisons the game in this country.

    And if you find the idea so intriguing, why not suggest that the Cascadians start their own league?
  12. song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    Do you have any evidence of this elitism or did you just pull that out of your ass?
  13. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Somebody from the Providence Plantations talking about elitism?:eek:
    You have some pretty nice "cottages" yourself. When did Brown start bootstrapping poor folks in huge numbers?

    Kasey Keller was born and raised in Cascadia ( Olympia, one of the four co-capitals) and stayed here to go to Portland for College. He returned to the Seattle area to end his playing days and is now a Cascadia resident. He said he wanted to raise his kids here. He comes back to watch his old College team play. He didn't pick Europe or Rhode Island. He is probably the worst example you could have picked.

    During his prime he played in Europe where the money is. Fabregas, Puyol, and Piqué went to England for the same reason. They play for Catalonia. They also play for Spain. Nobody confuses their national identity.


    As to the league, there are a couple California teams that wanted to horn in on the Cascadia Cup. But were turned down. Yeah, I guess we are elitist. If you aren't West of the Rockies or North of Mt Lassen, you aren't part of Gods country. Sorry, form your own Darby in the CA Republic. But we will continue to shore up the MLS as long as it suits us:p


    Wait. We are claiming Chico, too. The Russian River Brewery makes some terrific beers and the headwaters of the river are in Oregon (close enough, anyway. That border was made by other imperialists). Their Pliny the Younger is to die for. Now you can rail about our expansionist designs. Maybe the coming Hop Wars will be as famous as the Pig -Potato War.

    See? We aren't elitist. We are willing to exploit other people's resources like everyone else.
  14. Chowderhead Member

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    I grew up in Smith Hill and Washington Park in Providence. Trust me when I tell you that you would never confuse our domiciles with the Aldrich Mansion. Beyond that, take a second to look into Central Falls. It's not exactly Barrington or East Greenwich.
  15. Cliveworshipper Member

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    I counter with Spokane.


    Anthony's or Pauly Penta's?
  16. edwardgr Moderator

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    Speak for yourself. I am American, I am from Washington, I have considered myself Cascadian since my 8th grade year (late 1980's).
  17. edwardgr Moderator

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    Not particularly. Jefferson envisioned a strong ally on the Pacific coast that need not necessarily have been expansion of the US to the west. The name however most certainly dates only to the 70's.

    I do not at this time advocate for Cascadian independence, but an independence movement need not require oppresive regimes or tyranny to get started. It just requires enough common thinking, and enough philosophical differences from the establishment to begin. It also does not need bloodshed to be achieved.

    I do not believe that we will in my life time see an independent Cascadia, however I do see it as a potential outcome of the future. One need only look at historical maps of Europe to see that large nations or empires all most always eventually fragment. It could happen here too, certainly not tomorrow, probably not this century even, and possibly not at all. This nation, this continent of people are still relatively young (Native Americans aside) and yet we have very rich diverse regions. It is that very regionalization that could eventually lead to several smaller nations, it really just depends on whether or not our common ties are strong enough to overcome the regional diversity.
  18. Chowderhead Member

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    Spokane? Please.

    My haunts were Mainelli's, Angelo's Civita Farnese, Marchetti's (Cafe Itri, too, to be honest) and Smith Street NY Systems - The Original.
  19. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Elitist.
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  21. Yoshou Moderator

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    This may be shocking, but someone actually has gone through the process of developing a Cascadian national team:

    http://www.stumptownfooty.com/2012/2/15/2800601/cascadia-assembling-cascadian-mens-national-team

    The defense is somewhat passable, but I'm not sure how many goals they'd score. ;)
  22. Cliveworshipper Member

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    With only a little stretch you could add Brian Ching and Collen Warner. And with Portland connections, we could recruit Cherundolo and Heath Pearce.
    Maybe Connor Casey would come out of retirement for the CascadiaNT.
  23. William Penn Member

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    I created a Pennsylvania national team in Football Manager a few years ago. Its quality was about the same as Panama, for example. On a good year it almost made it to the World Cup.
  24. Yoshou Moderator

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    Eh.. Including guys who only attended college or played here seems a bit of a stretch, IMHO. Although, if someone could identify a player that has a parent that was born here, that's completely fair.
  25. Cliveworshipper Member

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    Oh, I don't know, it's not any more of a stretch than Pablo Mastoiani, Preki, or Freddy Adu. We welcome refugees.

    Passports aren't involved and actuall place of birth is no issue. Cascadia is and always has been an immigrant culture. The whole damn place is less than 200 years old unless you are native American.

    The tradition of the Oregon Trail and the Mackenzie trail is all that it took for you to say you were authentic. Now the trail is by United Airlines is the only difference.

    Cascadia isn't bound by FIFA rules any more than Catalonia is. We like it that way

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