Pele and his magic number 10 NOTE: Follow this stamp, Argentinian made a request to put Maradona into a "10 pesos" as shown earlier ... Maradona always followed Pele footstep ...(wearing #10, shone in WC, and put his number in stamp/money)
TOP10 best #10 Players ever by English.people.com http://funkydowntown.com/10-soccer-players-wear-number-10-jersey/ http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90783/91323/7019017.html 1- Pele 2- Maradona 3- Cruijff 4- Zidane 5- Platini 6- Bergkamp (?) 7- Baggio (?) 8- Puskas 9- Ronaldinho 10 M.Laurup ========================================= ? is really question mark or too high
Another "controversial" TOP10 best #10 in history by Bleacher/report.com http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1364137-10-greatest-numbers-10s-in-world-soccer-history/page/11 1- Pele 2- Puskas 3- Platini 4- Maradona 5- Cruijff 6- Baggio (?) 7- Eusebio (?) 8- M.Laudrup 9- G. Hagi 10 W.Rooney (?) ? is really question mark or too high
Dennis Bergkamp has his legions of English supporters - the finest technician of the Premier League era. Roberto Baggio captured the imaginations of a whole generation in the early 90's, like Ronaldinho did in the mid oo's. Do not understimate Baggio's magnetism and global appeal for the game. Eusébio was a phenomenal force in the 60's, some spectators thought he was on par or better than Pelé. Wayne Rooney... I don't know why his name is there, or Hagi's if truth be told!
Messi is not a big miss (as he was like Bergkamp Baggio Eusebio = quasi-#10) Di Stefano, Didi, Rivelino, Socrates, Gerson, Zico, Valderama, Rui Costa, Riquelme ... are among many missed
THE TELEGRAPH with 25 best "playmaker" in history (NO RANK) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...d-tribute-to-the-best-ever.html?frame=2628759
CREATIVE FORWARD: Bergkamp was a very very good player, with a charisma of a "playmaker" - but to me he was like a "part time #10" Same with Baggio, he was more like a "creative forward" then a "true playmaker" = similar to Bergkamp Eusebio was also this type ... Maybe only some Portuguese fans would fancy so ... but Pele was proven well in a duel with Eusebio at intercont 62 ... At WC66, Eusebio shone better against an "injured" Pele... But even himself considered and accepted Pele as a greatest player (ABOVE everyone) -Eusebio: "Pele played in an era which had so many great players and in that atmosphere he stood out above the others. He was the complete player in every aspect as well as being a kind human being. Cristiano Ronaldo is young yet, and has many years ahead of himself. But as of now, I do not see anyone who can compare with Pele"
James... This is obviously a poll for all player who wore the shirt number 10, nothing to do with play style.
The 'teamplay' is not underrated I think (there's an abundance of testimonies by his former team-mates around like Thierry Henry and such), but James just said something wrong IMO.
much less that you so wrongly label Zico as a FW. =========================== When was Bergkamp playing as a Play maker? Only for Holland and as quartretista at Arsenal. For Ajax he played as FW/striker, and for Inter he played as wide FW Baggio was even less used as "true" playmaker . Only when he was playing for smaller teams Brescia and at Inter. The rest he was as a 2nd striker (Italy, Juve and Milan). ============================ But I agre with Schwuppe that most lists are for "who wore NUMBER 10" - that's all- nothing much to do with "true play maker role" per se
There are difference in wearing number 10 and playing as a true play maker. 1- "True playmaker" but not wearing number 10: Di Stefano (9), Didi(8), Cruijff (9 and 14) Socrates (8) Zidane (5 at Real) Ronaldinho (11 at WC02), Kaka (8 Milan) Zola (25 Chelsea) Pirlo (21 Juve) Xavi (8 for Spain 08-14) 2- "Wearing number 10", but not a true playmaker: Lineker, Rooney, Jimmy Greaves, Owen, Baggi0 ( Italy, Milan Juve ) , Del Piero (Juve), Figo (at Real) , Messi (Barca) Seedorf (Milan) Van Persie (Arsenal) Bergkamp (Inter) Cecs (Spain) .... and ALOT .... out there now ... but worst of all Gallas (LOL) ...
many younger fans thought Pele, Puskas were forward and even as "striker" LOL ================================================= A brief notion of History of football tactics/formation and related to "number 10" or Playmaker: 1- From 40-60: There is no such thing as "play maker" but a ponta de lanca .. or (like Puck said) "go to guy" of a team . Number 10 stood for an "inside left" as half AM left and hale FW... So many "plamaker in modern term" wearing random number depends on their position/formation (Zizinho 8,10 Di Stefano 9, Puskas 10, Kopa 7,8 Pele 10 Didi 8 Rivelino 10,11 or Gerson 8 ...) 2- From 60-70: Pele made the shirt number 10 so famous, and MOST teams (blindly) handed number 10 to the best player or best attacker/striker ... 3- 80-90: Here the tactics and formation started to employ more on a "go to guy" and made them become main focus of the team: "play maker" and 3 great names did shine and advertise the number 10 become even more "HOLY" : Zico,Platini and Maradona This is the ERA marking the promotion of "PLAY MAKER" label/role 4- 90 to early 2000: We had seen a lot of great "number 10" = true playmaker following the above 3 names: in Enzo, Gullit, Savicevic, Laudrup, Zidane, Valderama, Hagi, Rui Costa, Riquelme, Rivaldo Bochini, Ortega Veron Aimar Ronaldinho Kaka Deco Totti .. 5- Mid 2000's until now: The holy number 10 lost its flavor along with the "lost of #9" due to modern tactics and pressing games .. That had replaced with many "creative WIDE FW" in Ribery Robben, Messi, CR7, Bale , Neymar Suarez Carzola with a few "classic #10" remained with Modric, Ozil Sneijder Silva ... but in a much less charisma
I have to agree with one of the great number 10 in history: Rivelino (Maradona's idol). Let's LEARN from him how a number 10 (playmaker should be or used to be) ========================================================== Brazil No. 10 shirt no longer so special, says Rivelino BY ANDREW DOWNIE SAO PAULO Tue Mar 4, 2014 10:47pm IST With a World Cup in Brazil just around the corner, however, the pulling power of the yellow No. 10 shirt is fading, according to Rivelino, another of the greats to pull it on. "The importance of the No. 10 shirt has unfortunately ended," said Rivelino. "Today the holding midfielders open the game up more than the No. 10. What used to be the function of the No. 10 doesn't exist in Brazilian football anymore." Pele, the man who graced the shirt more than any other having first worn it at the 1958 World Cup in Sweden, once said his role was to "score goals and make them." He went on to almost trademark the No. 10 shirt which until then had just been worn by any of the forwards, ... All eyes will be on him in this week's friendly against South Africa in Johannesburg, Brazil's last match before coach Luiz Felipe Scolari's announces his World Cup squad in May. Yet Neymar's role in team is not one that would have been recognized by the likes of Pele and Zico, with defensive duties just as much part of his remit as creating and scoring. It is a change that disappoints greats like Rivelino who was part of the 1970 Brazil side which is regarded as the greatest team to take to the field. "The priority today isn't creating but marking," the former Corinthians and Fluminense No. 10 said. "Creativity isn't as important. Today you have at most three good players in any team. Today you don't call up the best players in each position but the tactical options for each position." According to Rivaldo, it still carries some significance. "The No. 10 shirt weighs on you because you know who's worn that same shirt before you," he said. "Pele, Zico, Rivelino. That's a lot of pressure."
that was not my list .. but from UK folks ... (also noted that I wrote: many "thought" Pele was a pure FW = just because he SCORED a lot ... LOL) and guess what? UK people and their football was not based on playmaker so they might be the least knowledgeable voice into this role! Name me a famous "playmaker" from England? LOL Italy was another country that rarely employed a playmaker. They do have so called "trescartista" as a free roaming FW behind the stirker = ala Del Piero Baggio Totti Di natale Casano ... among those names Totti was the closest "play maker" type in normal term ... e could boss MF, creating and scoring. ===================================== Playmaker was traditional SA style coming from "ponta de lanca " in Brazil and "Enganche" in Argentina term. Other Europe countries employed/produced playmakers like Germany Nethehrland, France, Portugal, and some East Europe NT)