Players On Loan

It's live now. Bingham in goal.

 

Anyone watch the SA vs Dallas game that can give a review of how Garza and Bingham looked? Bing pitched a dugout in 47 minutes and Garza got PT in the 2nd half...

 

Of course Garza looked really good, because he is really good, he has played 11 times in 2 years for us, give the guy a freaking chance already!! Yeah Cordell Cato gets to play week after after.
As if we have so many wonderful talented attacking midfield players that we can afford to start letting guys out on loan, Watson and Doyle are clueless

 

I like Garza's game. I caught his brace against Ft. Lauderdale. I understand why we loaned him out, he needs to stay sharp, but I thought he was a lot closer to contributing to the first side. He's very technical with speed, heavy shot, he just needs to get enough first team minutes to relax. He plays a little amped up and jittery and it affects his passing. The only thing that will help that is giving him first team minutes to allow him to play through the nerves and calm down. Platoon him with the outside mids. Live with a few mistakes up field and have some patience. We stuck with Salinas for a long time, through a lot of poor decision making games. Salinas has never been an intuitive player, but he's better now and understands his role because of increased playing time. Garza is intuitive and has a threatening shot...a higher upside. Hope to see him recalled at some point and given more time with the full side to work through the nerves. The other options are not so much better that we can't afford to do that.

 

Watching Garza play, you can almost see him slow himself down when he gets to the "final pass" point. Seems like he's trying so hard to make the right decision that he winds up not making it, and it takes him too long anyway. I can see a scenario where he starts to gain confidence and relaxes, and that causes him to play faster and make better decisions because they are instinctive and not "thought through" some overly analytical process ("let's see, last time I shot, Wondo got mad at me, so I better slow down here and make sure there isn't a pass I should be making..."). I agree that his upside could be higher than Salinas's because though he is not as fast, he is maybe technically a little better and has a better shot...I think, with both feet. Salinas gets by on sheer effort but is limited technically.

 

Jazzy - I agree, he needs to get past the paralyzing fear of making a mistake. And for the benefit of the team, his teammates need to understand their roles in getting him to settle in. Basically have his back when he makes mistakes and be supportive. I love Wondo, but that wig he laid on Garza was the worst possible thing for a nervvy young player...total confidence killer. For the record, I want to see anyone in Garza's position take that shot every time...what was he, 10 yards out on a slight angle...rip it. If we can get Garza to a free flowing instinctual place, we'll have a very talented attacker. I think he's well worth the same time and investment we put into Salinas.

 

Yeah, he's a curious case (The Curious Case of Sam Garza), because usually I feel like a guy either has it or he doesn't, and you kinda know right away. Although Salinas was a bit more raw when he started, he is basically the same player today - the same positives and negatives. With Garza you just kinda keep thinking that there's gotta be more there, and some unrealized upside. Maybe he is just going to take longer.

 

IMO, thats a HUGE mistake for a GK to make. If a GK comes off his line he better get some touch on it..

I could already tell this will be a worthwhile loan to get these bugs out of the way for Bingham.

Any comments on how his distributions looked?

 

Yep, however, most on BS have been clamoring for Bingham to start for the past 2 years. Seems they were okay with giving up goals this way in order for Bings to work out the bugs. Considering the Quakes offense will be looking to score once a game, this was not the right approach.

 

Well, FWIW it's not like Busch (or any GK for that matter) never makes mistakes. By this time, Bingham knows how to play the position. He doesn't need to learn about it from guys posting on BigSoccer. Sure the more experience the better, but I think it's mostly about getting confidence from playing in real games.

 

Busch rarely makes mistakes coming off his line as he's used to MLS game speed and he knows what he can get to or not get to. Young keepers usually fail in this aspect, b/c they aren't calibrated to the speed. Obviously, consistent MLS game time is the only way to see if Bingham will sink or swim in this aspect, but this loan hopefully will help him on his way.

Busch's failings are ones related to his height and age, so I understand the reason behind people wanting Bingham.

 

Well, beyond height and age, Busch still makes plain old mistakes, just like any GK, experienced or not. Outside of this one case in San Antonio I don't know that Bingham has made any mistakes in decisions about coming off his line. I'm sure he has but I don't know if it is any more frequent than any other GK, experienced of not. In any case, if "consistent MLS time" is the way for Bingham to supposedly get better at these decisions, the loan is not doing anyone any good (except for maybe San Antonio) :--)

 

Consistent MLS time (what he wants) > Consistent NASL Time (what he can get now) > 1 or 2 US Open starts + Reserve League starts (what he has been getting)

He's not getting the first one this year, so it's on to the second one..and I fully believe he will be starting sometime next year.

 

Yeah, I think that's true.

 

Any rumors on who is going to Sac? What has Falvo's little birdie heard? I speculate the rookies stick with SJ for the first few weeks so coaches can get a longer look and it's a couple of veteran back-ups who get sent down, like Muller. Sac seems to have enough forwards signed, so perhaps a middie. Just a WAG.

 

I agree with you 100%, especially since the Earthquakes really needed Garza to develop at the time (and still do, I would argue). Unless there was something that happened outside of public view that caused a real problem with him being on the team, he should have gotten more chances last season. Since Garza is still with the team, any issues must not have been enough to get rid of him. It is interesting, though, where you have a guy like him, who's been with the team a while, but hasn't gotten that many chances, really.

Then you have guys like Jahn and Koval who seem to pretty much fit right in with minimal effort. It's still early on both of those guys as well, but the transition to playing professionally is easier for some than others. Sam just might be more volatile in his confidence.

 

I'm thinking may be TT and Sofia. Jahn would be my guess but Sac is stacked with Fs already, so maybe. Koval would also be great but looks like he's almost ready to jump in the first team, looked great vs Toluca as an attacking mid.

 

I dont think we signed TT out of college just to send him to Sac for the season. Let him play another year at IU if thats the case. While I dont think hes going to start, I do think we intend to get him minutes with the first team this year.

 

I agree I'd rather have him with the first team, but given our other signings, his injury, his age and his connection to Sac, I see him coming here. I mean, is he going to start or get minutes over Djalo, Salinas, Cronin or JBP? Is he going to be higher in the depth chart than Koval or Khari? I just don't know. We signed him so we could make sure we rope him in and he's ours, but I'm not so sure WaTFson is going to put much trust in the kid.

 

I think at the very least they'd want to see him out there training with the team before making a decision. I think he'd be better than Salinas and Cato already - as a winger, different but better, and he could take on a CAM role when they need a goal. Remember they used to sometimes bring WalMart in to play that role, and I think TT would do much better than him there.