Player spotting [7] - all pics of players in new boots/gear here!

noon-bob come on be realistic that was 6 nearly 7 years ago!! zz's peak has come and go. his old now. still got crazy skills and footballing brain but the older u get the less agile you become fact. messi and ronaldo run things and for a good reason they are technically and physically monsters. the game has sped up drastically since 2006. also the international game is much slower than domestic leagues. look at how much faster the la liga is nowadays.

zz also wasnt having the best of seasons with Madrid that season as well. i went to see the el clasico that year in the nou camp and didnt even realise zz was on the pitch. ronaldinho, eto and larsson was amazing!

 

If you say that Messi and Ronaldo are monsters of technique then Zidane is a god of it.

 

people he's clearly trolling us...

 

he prob is i give up his entitled to his fairyland opinion lol

 

I see noob-bob hasn't changed.

 

Back on topic......
St Mirren GK Craig Samson was wearing a pair of Nike Air Zoom Total 90 1's last night
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gp/15...7QUg5Ey92MSuSaJAXN0hv1dRMCMiKcup/tk/YFiKZQP2y
Pic is from a game earlier this season, couldnt get 1 from last nights game

 

very interesting spot. hulk who normally sports the mizuno morelia neo is in mixed outsole morelia wave. He stated he doesnt like bladed studs.

 

Does anybody knows where I can find this training top:
http://www.gettyimages.be/detail/ni...-ball-during-a-portugal-nieuwsfotos/145966718

 

It's kind of similar to the Sideline suit: http://store.nike.com/pt/en_gb/?l=shop,pdp,ctr-inline/cid-102602/pid-498114/pgid-561989

It seems to be a mock-neck, long sleeve version of the 12/13 Training Top: http://www.worldsoccershop.com/447888-gn.html but that particular version doesn't seem to be on sale to the public!

Maybe buy the SS training top and buy a mock-neck baselayer?

 

^^^Don't forget the thumbholes.

I tried finding one in the summer with no luck.

 

The dude is right about Zidane tho, either he or fat Ronaldo are the best in my lifetime (32) so far. Messi and CR both could eclipse them but need to do it in the World Cups. Watching Zidane was like watching footballing art unfold in front of you. Superb player. So, Saviola in white out adipures.

 

Darren Pratley in proper Puma Kings:

 

The World Cup arguement doesn't wash with me either, what if you had a player as good as Messi that had been born into a country with a terrible footballing pedigree? They'd have no chance of doing anything at international level, never mind in a World Cup, if they were stuck playing for someone like Luxembourg. Then again playing for someone with as rich a heritage and depth of talent as Argentina isn't really helping Messi as the powers that be keeping appointing some terrible managers.

Maradonna was a joke in charge and didn't they spend the last World Cup with Jonas Guiterrez, Newcastle's left midfielder, playing right back the whole tournament? Inspired management! No wonder Messi doesn't flourish in that team.

 

the pics doesn't works for me...

 

While my opinion would lean toward Zidane over Messi, I'll agree with JC and Mark that world cup performance should not be a huge determining factor in how a player is rated. And to hit on the point that Mark made one of my favorite players was George Weah, who's list of credentials is pretty extensive (including FIFA player of the year), played for Liberia (not only did he play but he practically financed the entire national team himself). They never made it into the world cup and were constantly the whipping boys of African teams. A great player who just happened to come from a country where their football team did not match up with his ability.

 

A great man once said "Only fools debate over opinions", that great man was me.

 

There are some footballers that never will/would win the WC, simply because the rest of their national team is poor. Shevchenko, Vucinic, Zlatan etc.

 

Johan Cruyff never won a World Cup, heck he didn't even play in the '78 world cup due to threats. Yet he's considered one of the greatest of all time. World Cup arguement = invalid.

 

lukaku in mviii

 

just like Zico...

 

That other guy in the picture has a pair of WI2. They match his kit perfectly.

 

You can't qualify any argument based on opinion as invalid. Someone said Messi was poor at the World Cup owing to poor management and owing to the fact that he was playing with players inferior to those at Barcelona. If that is the case, then you imply that if he wasn't at Barcelona he wouldn't be that good, but I tend to believe he'd be great anywhere.

The World Cup is still the absolute pinnacle of football. International football is the only form of the game that is truly pure. Schillaci had one good World Cup and wrote himself into the history of the game, but Ronaldo and Zidane lit up World Cups over a decade. Surely how a player handles pressure at the highest level is a facet of greatness? You've got to do it on the biggest stage in my opinion. There is no bigger stage in World sports than the Football World Cup.

 

This is all very OT, but it's an enjoyable conversation, and I intend to add to it.

I feel that comparing a WC to Club football is a bit like taking a stiker or defender, and judging him on his defending or on his attacking alone. They are both elements of football, but there are various variables that change the situation and make one player seem better than another. Defending itself is not even one thing - some players have weaknesses in defence against certain players. This is a poor analogy, but I'm just trying to use it in order to extend the idea of how some players can excel on different platforms, stages, or setups.

On another side note, with club football becoming such a money game, I'm starting to like international football more - it has the star players, but teams cannot just accumulate all the talent, unless it is their own. In my own mind, I feel a romantiacism returning in this regard. At one point, I didn't like the patriotic element and troubles that come with supporting certain countries, but I feel it's better than what is happening at Man City etc.