Philly 2018 WC Exploratory Committee :)

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by SoccerPrime, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. SoccerPrime Moderator

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    USA to bid for 2018 WC (and possibly 2014)
    articles:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/02/20/world.america/

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/worldcup/2007-02-21-usa-2018-cup-bid_x.htm

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=409812&cc=5901

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6380295.stm

    Discussions on BS here:

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10757763
    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485325

    I realize this is over 11 years from now, but many of the WC venues for 1994 were awarded 3-4 years before hand, so its conceivable that if Philly (most likely the Linc) will need be organize by 2013, 6 years away.

    Just curious what you guys think of the WC in Philly.
          
  2. Z010 Union Moderator

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    2 things

    1. I hate Lurie and Banner for what they did by lying to the public about bringing MLS to the Linc and then doing a back alley deal with Temple. Want proof? Here's the SI article from 2002 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/us/news/2002/12/05/us_glance/

    You have to scroll down a bit.

    2. This should be a bigger deal to me, but I care about getting a team in Philly first. One 30 day stretch 7 or 11 years from now doesn't get me excited. The prospect of a team here, every year, does.

    MLS first!
  3. SoccerPrime Moderator

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    Thats great Bryan and I agree that MLS in Philly is priorty #1, but since we all read the news, this is relevant for today.

    Anyway, I think it would be great if Philly hosted the WC as a venue. I know places like Orlando say that they drew in over $200 million dollars in tourism from the WC, what a boon that would be to the Philly region and what spotlight that would give the local Philly MLS Athletic Independence Colonials.

    Something to think about.
  4. SideshowBob Member

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    I thought I've read on here that the Linc isn't the appropriate size to host WC matches... I though it wasn't wide enough. Am I wrong? Or do people think it's "close enough" to warrant one of FIFA's well known exemptions?
  5. Sundevil9 New Member

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    A little credit where credit is due. Steve Goff of the Washington Post broke this story. Article, and blog.

    The blog has some decent discussion about possible venues. Philadelphia seems to be fairly high on a lot of people's lists.
  6. mdelrossi1 Member

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    reference this post from some time ago by SP

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8627492&postcount=27

    another post in that same topic mentioned the linc only being 68 yards wide...wide enough for FIFA sanctioned league matches but not international.

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8646558&postcount=35
  7. SoccerPrime Moderator

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    Yes, the stadium is narrow. Yes the 2005 FIFA Rules of the Game say that the Linc is too narrow for int'l games. But...

    If the WC comes to the US, and the new Giants Stadium doesn't beat Philly out, it would insane for Philly not to host. Imagine a WC game(s) in Philly in June?
    Wow!
  8. mdelrossi1 Member

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    dont get me wrong I would LOVE a WC game in philadelphia but I doubt they would bend their rules (albeit from 2005) so that philly could get a team over the media (NY) and political (DC) capitals of the US. were just not that big on the international map yet...
  9. Dills Moderator

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    i disagree ... haven't there been some pretty big international events in the city as of late, especially Live 8?
  10. Jpizz3 New Member

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    Are we skipping right past the idea that Philly may (should) already have a soccer specific stadium by well before 2018? Assuming that happens, they would be silly not to include all proper FIFA required measurements for international tournaments.

    Also, the WC doesn't need to be like the Olympics and stuck to one city. We could perhaps have a tri-state thing going on where the games are played in Philly (either Linc or new ss stadium), whatever new stadium is at the Meadowlands, and potentially the Jets new home in NY, presumably west side, although that deal continually falls through. You could even include DC, and none of the games would be too far to travel to.

    Now, I may have missed your point if you just wanted the finals in Philly, but I think this could work overall for the tourney and the US in general, it uses the major historical cities as well for an added bonus and boost in tourism.
  11. Z010 Union Moderator

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    An SSS will unlikely have 50,000+ seats. And to really reap the benefits of hosting the World Cup, the USSF would want the tournament in the largest possible stadiums I would think.

    That's where the NFL provincialism hurts them. Snyder and Lurie have two monsterous stadia, but have maximized seating to a point that a proper pitch won't fit on the field's footprint.
  12. Sundevil9 New Member

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    But Dan Snyder may have a new monstrosity within the borders of DC by then. With any luck, that facility will still have a decent sized field for a WC.

    But back to the Linc, the width is limited by the corners, right? If there's serious money at stake, couldn't those corner seats be lopped off and then replaced at a later date? Once again, this comes down to the commitment of Lurie.
  13. mdelrossi1 Member

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    well thats one event...i remember we made a bid for the olympics and failed to get our own country's comittee to back us and we had a Celtic soccer match moved to NYC IIRC because the stadium was "Too busy" with Temple. so beyond Live8 (And Geno's making the front page of bbc.co.uk because of the "speak english" sign) i can't really think of anything else. It would seriously be one of the most amazing things if Philadelphia got a WC match, unfortunately it seems as if we are the bastard middle child of the northeastern US.
  14. mdelrossi1 Member

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    there's the rub
  15. Dills Moderator

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    oooh oooh oooh, don't forget the original Live Aid ... makes 2. ;)
  16. SoccerDesign New Member

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    by 2018, isnt it entirely concievable that Philadelphia might have its own MLS team and thus a stadium large enough to host a FIFA event?

    I think that day may be closer then some realize
  17. CyphaPSU Member

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    I don't see how the Linc is wide enough for WC matches. Indeed, the Linc hosted Womens World Cup matches a few years ago, but I believe FIFA is more lenient with the rules in the womens game. It's really just the four corners that cut into a FIFA regulation size pitch, but they would have to move some serious concrete in those places to make room. I don't know if that is feasible.
  18. Z010 Union Moderator

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    I'm targeting March 13, 2007
  19. SoccerPrime Moderator

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    Wow, 3 week construction window is amazingly fast. Thats what I call "fast-tracked". :D
  20. Dills Moderator

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    let's keep our fingers crossed it works out better than the november '06 prediction. plus it'll give us something extra to drink about on st. patty's day.

    [IMG]
  21. Sundevil9 New Member

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    Financing, bureaucracy, laws of physics......these are merely words to Bryan.
  22. Z010 Union Moderator

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    You all can kiss my *

    I meant I expect that we will know that we have a team in the next month.
  23. SoccerPrime Moderator

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    We know Bryan, we just couldn't let you get away with it. :)
  24. Dills Moderator

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    dayamn! ole brown eye!!

    (_*_)
  25. Calcio69 New Member

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    Tear out some seats! Where the Eagles are headed, they won't need them.

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