Parkhurst as a full-back option

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Scotty, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    One great play doesn't make up for the fact he was a clear weak link in the back four.
     
  2. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like his experience in Europe playing some CL teams, as well as his ability to play both flanks. DMB is pretty one dimensional, so it may come down to the two of them for the LB spot on the field, but I think both make the final 23 at the expense of Castillo. His versatility is pretty well timed. Who knew he could play LB? And, who predicted he would do as well as he did against Mexico? I know he wasn't a revelation, or make anyone think of Leighton Baines, but he played solidly. I think that put him on the plane.
     
  3. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I used to think that as well, but with Dreds doing as well and playing with as much teeth as he did the other night (1st Meskin goal aside), I think we can keep GCam where he plays for Stoke and keep the central midfield pair as is. I like the idea of Dreds and MB, with flank attackers Zusi and Bedoya, with Demps underneath Aron or Jozy (my bent would be the former). Against Ghana I would think the central mids would be flatter across the middle and shading back to provide cover, staying at home more than pushing forward.
     
  4. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    He is a damn good soccer player. I would take him ahead of Beaz or Castillo in a heart-beat. Can anyone remember a bad touch or bad judgement?
     
  5. camasterton

    camasterton Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    North Carolina
    The one I can think of came just after he bombed out of the back, using a header to beat the FMF wing to the ball, setting himself off down the left flank. It could have been a great counter attack but his cross to center went by Dempsey and nothing came of the promise other than an FMF throw in. I do believe though he was expecting a more decisive run to that space in the center by Dempsey (ha!) and another runner to fill the space unguarded on the right, switching the point of attack as the defenders came at him and Wondolowski to his side.
     
  6. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ive never been a big fan, but against mexico was the first time i felt he had a really good game and didnt take away any negatives. based on only that match i feel comfortable with him as a backup. then again, bornstein probably had at least one game i didnt hate him in, so who knows?
    at fullback i would have cameron/chandler and johnson/beasley. say parkhurst gets the bulk of the next three friendlies and has comparable performances? id put him ahead of beasley.
    but we have the reality of klinsmann- jones is going to play every minute, johnson is going to play lm, lichaj never got a chance etc. i would take bornstein over castillo (and again- i really hate bornstein), and with chandler less than reliable (to, you know, show up) i guess i can get behind cameron/yedlin and beasley/parkhurst. worst case being evans and castillo in two of those spots.
    anyways, good game for parkhurst.
     
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  7. Fernandont Scorres

    Jun 26, 2011
    USA
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    United States
    You commented on Parkhurst's offensive presence and then said Beltran was useless. What Beltran offers on defense isn't close to World Cup quality, but useless just isn't true. His LWB had to stay honest for a decent chunk of that game and he directly contributed to a goal. That's a decent offensive performance from a FB. I still don't think he's anywhere near the starting lineup, but just calling it how I see it.
     
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  8. Fernandont Scorres

    Jun 26, 2011
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I remember correctly, around the 10th minute he had a bad giveaway on a short pass that luckily Mexico wasn't able to counter on. I attribute that to nervous jitters more than anything though. That's really the only time I remember seeing him make a mistake. He looked comfortable playing out of the back as well.
     
  9. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Parkhurst says move to right back a temporary shift
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...-michael-parkhurst-says-move-right-back-tempo
     
  10. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Who's going to ask Berhalter not to jam us up before the World Cup? Scotty, can we count on you?
     
  11. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
  12. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
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  13. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
     
  14. camasterton

    camasterton Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    North Carolina
    Understand the Donovan decision, do not understand choosing Beasley over Parkhurst .
     
  15. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member+

    Apr 30, 2007
    Providence, RI
    This seems like a good time to get in a dissenting opinion about Parkhurst. Parkhurst is slow and struggles against athletic attackers. He doesn't fit 4-4-2 diamond because he isn't good enough going forward. Parkhurst is a good player, but Bigsoccer has overrated him for a long time and has a penchant for zeroing in on the weaknesses of most players, but rarely remembers Parkhurst's mistakes and deficiencies.
     
  16. camasterton

    camasterton Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    North Carolina
    Sure, there is not a player in the pool without their warts but no player gets a bigger grade on a curve than Damarcus Beasley.
     
  17. swedust

    swedust Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    It's always a good time for those on Big Soccer, right?

    But anyway: I think you overstate the case that posters like me were making for his inclusion in the 23. I never saw him as a planned starter, but as a utility guy at spot #19 or #20 just in case injuries and cards pile up along the back.
     
  18. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Just wasn't good enough at the end of the day. Was the right call by Klinsmann.
     
  19. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Yep, just like Boyd.
     
  20. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe. I think it was clear that Parkhurst wasn't good enough. He had previously failed at the highest level. Boyd is playing a low level, so I think we will have to see him move to a bigger club first before labeling that he isn't good enough for the highest level.
     
  21. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
     
  22. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Has to be even more of a downer for Parkhurst when you consider his primary motivation for moving back to MLS in the first place:

    "If I wasn't involved with the national team, I would have stayed in Germany," Parkhurst told MLSsoccer.com by phone on Monday from Crew training camp in Bradenton, Fla. "The family was happy, the level [of play] was good. I wasn't getting the games, but financially it was the best contract of my career. So if I didn't have a chance for Brazil, I think I would have stayed. But you don't get that chance for a World Cup too often, so I had to get out of there and give myself a chance."

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2...l-parkhurst-admits-without-chance-going-brazi
     

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