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Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by Manolo, Nov 11, 2011.
Paraguay v. Ecuador
Friday November 11, 2011 7:00PM ET
Any idea where it will be shown in the US?
DirecTV I think? Or CCTV at bars....
I am not sure about digital cable providers or Dish Network
Vamos Ecuadawgs! I have a good vibe about tomorrow's game.
Ecuador 3 Paraguay 1
What time do they play?
7pm ecuador time. Well, actually 7pm US Eastern time too since the time has now changed here too.
on another note LOL @ the last minute of this video video [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydZwAyUMBls&feature=player_embedded"]Entrevistas Ecuador antes juegp PAR - YouTube[/ame]
Lol that frikking viejo needs to shut up
any links online for the game ? thanks ...
Ecuador playing OK not good not bad. They were lucky many times not to get scored on at all. Not creating many scoring chances and many mental mistakes. Hopefully they have a better 2nd half.
Good first half. Little threat from the Paraguayans. Walter Ayovi and C. Suarez have been frustrating, they had some good chances to break on the left side but disappointed.
I think we need some Joao Rojan on the left side.
WOW down 2 and 0. Ecuador sucks fat ones. Where is guy saying Rueda was good? Dude is the worse coach ever. He is terrible! What a terrible line up.
By the way who said Morante was good? Dude is freaking slow and terrible.
We are getting spanked in the second half 2-0
Terrible line up and Valencia is playing terrible. Frustrating!
Please add both ayovis to the played terrible list.
I think Valencia tried, but w did improve when Rojas and Montero came on.
For those of you younger kids, don't despair...Paraguay has always beaten us the same exact way in Asuncion. It's the same story every time - they play like crap, we look like we should be winning, they score a goal off of a set piece or long ball counterattack, game over.
I thought the team looked good. The goals were a result of bad marking, nothing Rueda could do about that, the players lost concentration. Valencia needs to get his form back, and C. Suarez and J. Ayovi were not at their best. Hopefully in Quito, with the crowd supporting, they should be able to recover and take it out on the Peruvians.
I really felt that Saritama was slllllllllowwww.
This better be the last time we see Saritama on the field. We have Castillo that is way more useful than him. If we need a substitute for the last 20-30 minutes we can put Mendez on the field. Our goal showed why we still need to find a replacement for Mendez, we dont have players with his vision! We also need to remember that Montero should be the undisputed starter on the left if Arroyo isn't on the field. Not many players can take on players like he does. Rojas contributed more than Borja in the few minutes he played. Achillier isn't anything special either. I rather have Paredes that seems to have more confidence even though he might not defend as well.
The game against Peru is gonna be crucial if we want to be amongst the top 4 heading into June 2012.
For starters, this was a HUGE mistake by Reinaldo. IDIOT!! MORON!! Where are you so i can choke the living sh*t out of you?!
First of all 4-4-2 with Borja AND Ayovi?? WRONG, it's either one or the other you damn moron. By placing Borja and Ayovi both up front Borja was mostly in the center and Ayovi played outside the box(not his strength-meaning he was basically GHOST the entire first half and a good part of the second half). Had Jaime played alone up front or w/ Montero or Rojas assisting him, I can bet there would have been plenty of chances in each half. 2 players with the same characteristics up front?! LOL you make me laugh Reinaldo. You don't know sh*t.
This game proved that Saritama is straight garabage. Did you guys see how he got pushed around when he had to go body to body for a ball? Weak sauce Saritama. Point proven. Segundo Castillo NEVER EVER gets toyed around like that on body to body. And I can assure people here that Fernando Gaibor would never get bodied like that, the kids the same size as Saritama but he's got the energy of a bull.
Reinaldo's substituions were LATE. He gets Montero in late as sh*t. Borja should have been gone after the 1st half. Rojas actually surprised me by scoring, but this game comes to show that if we would have treated this like a home game, we could have possibly won. If Rueda would have called up Guerron and Arroyo we would have had a variety of great subs. This game is Reinaldo's fault.
The defense did good. IMO they were what stood out from our NT. A few mistakes here and there, but nothing major. I think Erazo and Morante were great. Achilier did his thing for the most part and W.Ayovi stood out the most out of the 4 defenders. (ratings: Banguera 6, Morante 7, Erazo 7, Achilier 7, Ayovi 7.5)
The midfield was not it's best today. In the first goal Paraguay scored, Valencia screwed up BIG TIME and I have no shame in calling him out. I don't know what the hell he was thinking when he stopped marking Riveros, such an AMATEUR mistake. Same with the second goal, I'm almost positive it was Valencia again who screwed up on his coverage over Dario Veron. I think it was a mistake between him and Noboa. Either way, Valencia pissed me the hell off today b/c our defense did their job and if we had some DAMN cooperation from the midifeld in those 2 plays then we would have not lost. Just saying it like it is. (ratings: Noboa 6, Saritama 5, Valencia 5, Suarez 6.5)
Jaime Ayovi was out of position almost the entire game and Borja didn't really do sh*t besides 2 shots he had on goal that were weak. Ayovi actually had 2 that could have gone in, especially the one that Valencia served him in front of goal. (ratings: Ayovi 6, Borja 5)
Substitute ratings: Montero 7.5, Rojas 8.5, Mendez 8
I don't even need to explain their ratings, they changed the game completely. Makes me wonder how Saritama and Borja got a chance to start.
I have said it for years...since 2006 Borja has contributed nothing to the NT, and it should stay that way with him never being called up...EVER!!!!!!!
As for the game, damn, what a disappointment. The first half was tense at times, but it looked like we'd leave that game with a tie. The 4-4-2 was ineffective, inefficient, and slow. What we needed was a 4-5-1. Anybody who says Mendez can't play at his age, please expect to get yellow carded if I see it verbalized. The midfield had no creativity during the first 45 minutes, and Mendez would have added that dynamic to the field- not to mention the order that would have been in place. The defense didn't do bad at all. Those mistakes like b9 said were mainly miscommunications between Valencia and Noboa. The back 4 is good. Banguera should let Dominguez take a crack at the net.
As for the next lineup vs. Peru, it's obvious we need to use a lone striker:
Achilier - Erazo - Morante - Ayovi
Rojas - Mendez - Suarez - Valencia
A bit unorthodox, but I think the speed/creativity is clear.
Let's thank our lucky stars that Venezuela tied Colombia. We're not far away from them and have one game in hand.
We won't see that kind of lineups ever. Btw, we should drop Valencia for Guerron he is scoring and assisting regularly.
Achilier in my opion is stright up over-rated, hes as garbage as paredes in covering his man. He, like paredes......depends on his speed to track down his man but unlike paredes offeres nothing going forward. And thats the truth like it or not . Valencia, as much i love him, doesnt deserve to be a starter anymore . Noboa has fallen off....and jaime was out of posistion so really it isnt his fault. We miss Segundo Castillo and Benitez...Yes BENITEZ was MISSED and so was a good bench including Guerron and Arroyo. Caicedo would have done well in this game too (but he was injured so cant really blame rueda ).
Morante has his ups and downs...but is far to inconsistant throughout 90mins. Montero is a beast and Rojas proved he deserve more than 12mins in a match. Mendez is still the best mid we have..............and thats worrying since hes and the latter part of his carreer. Overall...............we will beat peru at home but thats only becuase it is Peru and becuase it is at HOME. Im usually optomistic but our next matches are againts Argentina and Colombia.
Achilier is garbage? Name one time he got embarassed last night cuz i don't remember it. There's people here who said Morante sucks. Name one time someone passed through him and created a ton of danger? You gotta call it like it is. We got screwed over because Valencia and Noboa screwed up on their coverage on both goals. THEIR FAULT. Not the defenders. If you look at Achilier, Morante, Erazo, and Walter Ayovi they ALL were covering their man in both situations. Had Juan Carlos Paredes played last night I think I would have stopped watching the game b/c then we would REALLY have been f*cked. Achilier isn't known to attack he's a 100% defensive oriented, he even plays a lot as a center back. Juan Carlos Paredes is a fake right back that's really a right wing w/ no defensive skills at all.
This game leaves me satisfied defensively but everything went wrong with the midfield. Saritama is a tool and got pushed around like a 5 year old. I called it a million times that Valencia should have started as a center mid using a 4-5-1 and Montero and Suarez should have been the wings. Although Mendez did great the last few minutes he played, I still find it hard to believe he can perform at 100% in a full 90 minute game. He struggles to do it in Emelec. I watch him and Gaibor play side by side and he gets outshined just about every game. What we lacked in this game was the speed and creativity that Montero and Rojas offered at the end of the game. If we just had Miller Bolanos and Fernando Gaibor on this NT, we would have great options in the center of the field and eliminate Saritama and those D.Quito losers.
Don't sweat it guys. we are still in this. but some changes need to be made. F UCK Borja, sorry for my language but this guy is USELESS!! I never wanna see him near a Ecuador jersey. And Saritama did get toyed around which was embarrassing.
I love the pace and energy Montero and Rojas brought. These guys need to start vs Peru.
Noboa is suspended for our next game but I hear Castillo will be back. But I have the feeling Sari might be dropped but our other options is not impressive. we got minda and alex bolanos!! lol more deportivo crap!
I hope we can line up like this for the next game
dominguez (his tall and atheletic body might have saved those long balls)
achiller (was solid i thought) erazo and morante (both did well) ayovi
valencia(please step up your game! you can do it ) castillo and mendez (we need mendez vision and long range shots) and montero (suarez did crap)
up front rojas and j.ayovi. these guys are former teammates and have good trickery and rojas has explosive speed and talent.
By the way, Valencia improved when he shifted to the middle. Food for thought...