From this article http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/08/15/dear_uncle_sam?page=0,0 I found some very interesting ideas, but also a direction to Manto's letters to Uncle Sam, which are both hilarious and very informative for a naive American trying to gain a better understanding of how Pakistani people think about us. You can disagree as strongly as you think with how these perceptions take shape, but it's pretty irrelevant. We imposed ourselves there, and if we want to avoid *****ing everything up even more, we might want to take into account the local populations view of us. Keep in mind, these were written in the 1950s. I found four full copies of his letters on the net. http://www.chowk.com/Markets/First-Letter-To-Uncle-Sam http://www.chowk.com/Life/Travel/Second-Letter-to-Uncle-Sam http://www.chowk.com/Life/Travel/Third-Letter-to-Uncle-Sam http://www.chowk.com/Markets/Fourth-Letter-to-Uncle-Sam
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/11/opinion/sunday/and-hate-begat-hate.html?ref=opinion Today is the tenth anniversary of 9/11, and I have heard more than I care to listen that we were attacked because these people "hate our freedoms." What the hell that means I have no idea, but I never bought it. This article above, of which I have quoted several relevant (in my view) portions, provides the clearest example of why we are going to lose the war in Afghanistan. It is further an indictment of our major media outlets that fail to provide any constructive explanations or information about why this conflict continues to drone on. Sorry for the pun.
Walter Russell Mead has a troubling, but as always, insightful article about the state of the US and Pakistan's relationship. It's only becoming worse I'm afraid. "Next: Drone Strikes on Pakistan’s ISI?" excerpt: Read more at: http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/09/23/next-drone-strikes-on-pakistans-isi/
Well that's face the realities of the situation. The US can't really attack Pakistan, at least not openly. If they do, Pakistan will only move further against us. Pakistan will not stop the attacks because they believe that the US and the Afghan administration today are agents of India and they have no strategic interest to seeing the current Afghan government succeed. So what is the solution? For the US: it would take many more years and billions and billions of dollars to create an Afghan administration that is willing to withstand Pakistani pressure. I'm talking twenty to thirty years of US occupation and even then it'd be a tough sell. I don't see any other solution but to get out and let the Afghans fall back into the lap of the Pakistanis and blow each other up. Which they will.
We could blow up the Pakistanis a bit before leaving the whole region. Just to even up the odds a little. It's not like ISI isn't asking for a good beating, what with the whole terrorism thing.
I'm not sure that's going to do us any good. Even if they are actively trying to kill our soldiers, weakening or radicalizing the Pakistani government, military or intelligence service is not in our interest.
well 2 out of 3 are radical, but you are right, at least they have a civilian corrupt government and not a military corrupt government, that is progress. But maybe is time to help fix the problem the British created in 1947.
Brave family refuse honor killing: http://twitter.com/#!/DilshadVadsaria/status/120180374017024000 http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...i-family-defies-tradition-draws-anger/245691/
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/0...ed-u-s-find-bin-laden-with-treason/?hpt=hp_t2 So is this then a de facto declaration that OBL was working for the Pakistan Govt.? Obviously if this is High Treason then OBL must have been a member of/working for the state of Pakistan. Thus Pakistan is supporting terrorism and the US should stop all aid to this country.
I don't think the Pakistani government is one entity. There are many factions within it and the military, intelligence service etc. The US already knows that important people in the country support terrorism. They have come out and said publicly. They also have calculated that cutting off support would do more damage to US interests than anything else. Not least of which is that if Pakistan cut off the supply route to Afghanistan thousands of our troops would be cut off and abandoned.
Well at least he was not charged with trying to inject Pakistanies with AIDS like some doctors in Africa.
This won't help improve US-Pakistani relations: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45442...ands-us-vacate-air-base-after-deadly-strikes/
Can anyone figure out what these disturbing videos depict? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTTomBI1iFo"]Pak Army Beating TTP Takfiris - YouTube[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpYviNtBnMM&feature=related"]Pakistan soldiers beat Villagers - YouTube[/ame]
They were trying to get information on the whereabouts of some Taliban personnel. Disgraceful actions. It's clearly torture. They are there on tape so they should get punished severely.
Is there any reason to suspect that this is common practice? Is/was there any coverage of this in Pakistani media? Was any investigation ever conducted? Of course, abuse is a two-way street: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifrsEyIMJFs"]Taliban beating a Pakistani soldier - YouTube[/ame]
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistani-models-nude-photo-causes-fury-094502447.html she is on the news. for this
I'll borrow the words of a Moslem leader about Rita Hayworth: "tangible proof of the existence of God!"
posted in the Afghan thread: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/w...e-worshipers-in-afghanistan.html?pagewanted=2 "responsibility was claimed by a Sunni extremist group from Pakistan, where Sunnis and Shiites have been energetically killing one another for decades. The group, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, had not previously claimed or carried out attacks in Afghanistan, however, and its emergence fueled suspicions that Al Qaeda, the Taliban or Pakistan’s spy agency — or some combination of those three — had teamed up with the group to send the message that Afghanistan’s future stability remained deeply tenuous and indeed dependent on the cooperation of outside forces. ... Lashkar-e-Jhangvi ... once operated openly in Pakistan with the support of its spy service, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, but has since been outlawed. In recent years it has struck up alliances with Al Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban, an umbrella group of Pakistani militants that has attacked Pakistan’s cities and security forces numerous times. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is inspired by a fundamentalist Deobandi philosophy that justifies killing Shiites because of their beliefs"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/08/world/asia/pakistan-nato-tankers-attacked/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 Anyone surprised that they all got away? LOL
What are nations we pretend to be allies with, but that are actually run by terrible people who hate us, Alex?