Other Teams News Part II [R]

The run into the box midway through? Yeah, it was Cryuff who did that. I was sitting in the Tribuene on the "away" side about 5m further toward the center line. Had a GREAT view of that run. If you look closely you can see a small red-headed kid wearing a white Gerd Mueller kit waiving a German flag.

[I kid, of course. You cannot see me but I was at the game. Great memory. Who knew how classic that game was going to be. I remember wanting to leave at half time.]

 

congrats....on being in the running for the silliest post of the year

 

Oh, no. Spend some time in the Bayern forum. You could give an award a day for this there.

I *do* agree stats like this are silly though.

 

Spain cannot defy the laws of economics forever it seems.

Spanish clubs in danger over TV money

February 25, 2013

Spanish league vice-president Javier Tebas has warned that clubs could disappear in the coming months - with Deportivo La Coruna one of those in most danger - if television revenues are not kept flowing as agreed.

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1354232/spanish-clubs-in-danger-if-tv-money-slows?cc=5901

 

Sure they can. It will just take another guy like this...


That's $175m average between the 20 clubs. Would love to see how much each club owes. Being $100m in debt shows just how poorly Spanish clubs like Deportivo La Coruna are run. Could you imagine a German club being THAT much in debt?

 

Yeah. But they'd be in the 7th Division! LOL!!

I'm betting much of that Spanish debt is at the top.

It's all they can do to try to compete.

 

The depth of BS and fantasy there are two of the major reasons I rarely post there anymore.......

And when I do, I just post and leave. I have no time for the BS anymore.

The bad thing about statistics is how they can be manipulated. Someone can take the most obscure stat out there and try to pump up its importance if they believe it proves their point. You see it constantly........

 

With 1.3 billion overall I think you are right. But if the last place team has 100 million in debt and are doing THAT bad, just imagine how they squandered that money.

 

My bet would be corruption.

I still think of the Jesús Gil y Gil years at Atletico Madrid.......

 

the fount of all financial knowledge Swiss Ramble had an excellent piece on this issue. Slightly dated, but still relevant.

In conclusion, while there are some very real debt problems in Spanish football, the situation is not quite so dramatic at Barcelona and Real Madrid as some would have people believe. It would obviously be better for their balance sheets if the debt was lower, but their ability to generate revenue is unsurpassed, admittedly partly due to the current unfair TV deal, but also their high gate receipts and awesome commercial strength. These operations continue to grow, as seen by Barcelona’s record-breaking shirt sponsorship deal with the Qatar Foundation and Real Madrid’s plans to build a $1 billion holiday resort in the United Arab Emirates.

Of course, the two Spanish giants may still come under pressure from their creditors at some stage, especially if they embark on a summer spending spree following the disappointing Champions League semi-final exits. Nor should the impact of Spain’s faltering economy be trivialised, but the fact is that right here, right now, the important debt (bank loans, transfers and tax liabilities) is relatively low, at least for clubs of this size.

When reading reports on how much Barcelona and Real Madrid owe, it’s not quite a case of “don’t believe what you read”, but you do need to understand what any analysis is actually referring to, because, as we have seen, debt has many different definitions.

Caveat emptor – or something like that.


http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html

 

Wow, only 8 of 20 teams can cover 50% or more of their debt?

This is a super huge problem for them because these clubs are just treading water hoping for banks to ease their lending restrictions. Otherwise they will have to cut costs and restructure their debt payments to more long-term options. This would mean a moratorium on any new debt which would pretty much kill their ability to challenge for any title. The "money" slots would be to play for UEFA and CL spots but those might be in jeopardy if they continue to drop coefficient points.

This is where if FIFA were serious about Financial Fair Play they would reward clubs and leagues where they are able to manager their books better. Spain is not a costly place to do business so the overall costs should not be that high. It is through mismanagement that these clubs are so in debt. No one can realistically challenge the top two teams so why bother?

 

Has "FIFA" been involved in FFP or is it a UEFA (joke) initiative? I always thought FFP was a UEFA idea.

 

Kagawa hat-trick for United.

 

A couple of very nice passes for Tottenham to set up two goals.

 

Meanwhile, in Copenhagen...Nicklas Bendtner gets Denmark ban after drunk driving arrest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21660707

 

So this is where the random chatter goes

 

No, the random chatter goes into a thread called, "Everything but Football..." In this thread, we discuss other teams.

 

Gotcha, Boss.

 

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Here is Keene arguing he did right thing sending off Nani. The REAL funny part is that these "experts" keep using the term "dangerous play" which, from anyone who has played the game, should know that the infraction was "serious foul play" (which is a red card offense) as opposed to "dangerous play" which is a cautionable offense. Experts.

 

And then there is this....

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/socce...rted-nani-red-card-police-184253942--sow.html