Official: Union 2013 Preseason Catch-All

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  1. SmashtheVan

    SmashtheVan Member+

    Jan 13, 2009
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    FTFY. No one cares.
     
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  2. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Union will be 1 of 5 teams participating in the DPSC.
     
  3. UnionFreak1

    UnionFreak1 Member+

    Oct 14, 2009
    Tucson, Baja AZ
    Club:
    FC Tucson
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Bimbo sponsorship only has the Union training in Orlando. When it comes to a preseason tournament, the Union can participate anywhere (last PreSeason Central America, and the 2011 PreSeason Greece.) By the Union participating in the inferior preseason tournament, its likely going to have an impact on the season overall. Instead of versing 3+ MLS playoff teams to start off the season, the Union will be versing USL & NASL teams! Its just a negative situation.
     
  4. alessandro2016

    May 23, 2006
    New England played in the 2012 Desert Cup, winning all 3 of their group stage matches and only losing in the championship game by PKs. Clearly playing well in this superior preseason tournament had a positive effect on their season overall.
     
  5. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beyond Bimbo sponsorship, there are practical reasons to play in Orlando. For the team and for most Union fans (I am aware of tens of thousands of Union fans on the East Coast and somewhere between zero and two in the Pacific Time Zone) it is far more practical to travel to Orlando than to Tuscon. I will be going to Orlando in February. I probably would not go to Tuscon.
     
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  6. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PLEASE!!!!
     
  7. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess DCU, SKC, and Montreal didn't get the memo. I heard that TFC will also be one of the eight clubs participating.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Walt_Disney_World_Pro_Soccer_Classic

    Orlando City are no pushover, either.
     
  8. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are normally 8 teams entered into the Disney Tournament. So far, for 2013, these are the confirmed teams:
    I see 1 NASL team, and 4 MLS teams in that list, 2 of which finished 2nd & 3rd in the Supporter's Shield race, (Vancouver may come back to defend their championship, to make it a 5th MLS team). That 1 NASL team also went to the 3rd round of the Open Cup, AND won the 2012 NASL championship...hardly "Our Sisters of the Poor" material, as you are suggesting. Petulance is very unbecoming.
     
  9. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    I would rather the Union play in relevant tournament that is at least "televised" on ESPN3 against MLS competition that is only a relatively inexpensive 2 hour flight from Philadelphia, than have to travel 3 time zones away to play significantly inferior competition which receives no air time online or on television that won't show how your current crop can stack up against current MLS players, where the flight will be significantly more expensive.

    Then again, I like the smell of bus fumes.
     
  10. TonyClarkDOOP

    TonyClarkDOOP Member+

    Jun 18, 2010
    Oxford, United Kingdom
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TFC was relegated.
     
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  11. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not a problem. Lower division teams are included as well.
     
  12. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MacMath is training alongside Tim Howard at Everton for three (?) weeks.
    Hernandez doing a training stint with Real Sociedad.
     
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  13. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does something like that work? Does the Union pay all of MacMath's expenses? Does the Union pay Everton? Is there any requirement that Howard be nice or helpful to MacMath? What's in it for Everton to want to do something like this?
     
  14. TonyClarkDOOP

    TonyClarkDOOP Member+

    Jun 18, 2010
    Oxford, United Kingdom
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    whats the allocation to pounds conversion rate?
     
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  15. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    isnt evertons GK coach also the USMNT goalkeeping coach? that could be a possible link
     
  16. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    MacMath does Timmy's laundry and cook for him. In exchange, Timmy will show Zac how not to punt a ball directly out of play.
     
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  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe US Soccer is paying for it, or for part of the expenses?
     
  18. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would tend to doubt that considering that MacMath is pretty low down on the list of US keepers. Based on recent history, Johnson and Hamid would seem to be ahead of him.

    I find it interesting that training loans are pretty common but nobody (here) knows how it really works.

    What about for guys like Matt Kassel or Patrick From England who the Union bring in as trialists? Do they get paid? Do they get housing/hotel, airfare, living expenses, salary?
     
  19. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In terms of the trialists like Kassel and Kanyuka, they likely get team meals like everyone else, living arrangements somewhat provided or at least arranged (a shot-in-the-dark trialist like Kanyuka stayed with Lahoud for the time that he was here although a more-heralded trialist like Paunovic may have had hotel provided - nearby-location trialists like Kassel and Mkosana probably just crashed at other players' houses, if needed). They do not get a salary for their training/trialing stint as they essentially are trying to get a job, either now (i.e. Paunovic, Herdling) or down the road (i.e. Kassel, Mkosana - did not seem like either of them was going to sign this season but they are letting the coaching staff get a good, long view of them now as well as understand how the team trains so that they are better prepared to fight for a job in the pre-season). MLS used to allow trialists to be signed for a weekend contract for reserve games back when the reserve league was first formed - they got a few hundred $ but I have not seen that type of contract described in the press in a while.

    In terms of the overseas training, they would not get a salary - assumedly the host team gives team meals and arranges living accomodations. The host team gets a chance to look at the player for future transfer purpoes (i.e. MacMath has gone to Everton a few times now) - the player or his team (i.e. Union) likely pays for the travel to get him there and back (as it would be like any other employer paying for an employee's travel related to him getting developmental training) and the player is likely on the hook for non-team provided meals and whatever else he does when not training with the foreign team.
     
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  20. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Versing? Are you a three year old?
     
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  21. djramone

    djramone Member+

    Jan 14, 2006
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    <Shudder>
     
  22. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is indeed, Chris Woods, I think. That sounds like a plausible connection. Perhaps this is also somewhat related to relationship built during the training stint and friendly Everton had here. Remember that the Everton U17 or 18s came over and played the Union's as well.
     
  23. UnionDues

    UnionDues Member+

    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Poor kid. You guys are merciless.

    http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/why-do-kids-say-versing.aspx
     
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  24. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

    FC Vaduz / Philadelphia Union
    Jan 7, 2010
    Andalusia, PA
    Club:
    FC Vaduz
    Lahoud was nominated for MLS W.O.R.K.S. Humanitarian of the Year along with Kei Kamara and Chris Seitz. Seitz should win this award, but good on Lahoud for being nominated, although I'm not really sure why.
     
  25. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lahoud and Kamara are big with Sierra Leone charitable work.
     

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